House Takes First Step Toward Surrender In Iraq
UPDATE:
Condi Rice pay's Troops In Iraq Unexpected Visit To Reassure Them They Are Supported No Matter What The Idiot's In Congress Have Done-Link At Bottom Of This Post
UPDATE:
Senate Fails To Pass Non-Binding Surrender Resolution
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Story Here
WASHINGTON - The Democratic-controlled House issued a symbolic rejection of President Bush's decision to deploy more troops to Iraq on Friday, opening an epic confrontation between Congress and commander in chief over an unpopular war that has taken the lives of more than 3,100 U.S. troops.
The vote on the nonbinding measure was 246-182, and within minutes, Democrats said their next move would be to challenge Bush's request for $93 billion in new funds for the Pentagon.
"The stakes in Iraq are too high to recycle proposals that have little prospect for success," said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, leader of Democrats who gained power last fall in elections framed by public opposition to the war.
"The passage of this legislation will signal a change in direction in Iraq that will end the fighting and bring our troops home," she vowed after the vote, in which 17 Republicans joined 229 Democrats in a wartime rebuke to the president.
Citing recent comments by Democrats, Bush's Republican allies said repeatedly the measure would lead to attempts to cut off funds for the troops. Outnumbered, they turned to GOP Rep. Sam Johnson of Texas to close their case - and the former Vietnam prisoner of war stepped to the microphone as lawmakers in both parties rose to applaud his heroism.
"Now it's time to stand up for my friends who did not make it home, and for those who fought and died in Iraq already," he said. "We must not cut funding for our troops. We must stick by them," he added, snapping off a salute as he completed his remarks to yet another ovation.
Moving quickly, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., set a test vote for Saturday on an identical measure, and several presidential contenders in both parties rearranged their weekend campaign schedules to be present.
Republican senators said in advance they would deny Democrats the 60 votes needed to advance the resolution, adding they would insist on equal treatment for a GOP-drafted alternative that opposes any reduction in funds for the troops.
Even so there were signs of Republican restlessness on the issue. Only two members of the GOP rank and file sided with Democrats on an earlier procedural vote; the total figured to be higher this time.
The House vote completed a turnabout from the fall of 2002, when the House bowed, 296-133, to Bush's request to authorize military action against Iraqi ruler Saddam Hussein.
U.S.-led troops made quick work of his regime but soon found themselves targeted in a country where long-suppressed sectarian rivalries flared and outside forces rushed to intervene. Tens of thousands of Iraqis have died in the ensuing war, along with more than 3,100 U.S. troops.
Bush made no comment on the developments in the House, and his spokesman said the president was too busy to watch the proceedings on television.
After a secure videoconference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, Bush said the Iraqis reported providing troops to fight alongside Americans, making sure that no ethnic or religious factions are ignored in the security operations, providing $10 billion toward reconstruction and working on an oil revenue-sharing law.
"That's good news for the Iraqi people. And it should give people here in the United States confidence that his government knows its responsibilities and is following through on those responsibilities," Bush said.
More than 390 of 434 lawmakers spoke during nearly 45 hours of dignified debate that spilled across four days - an unusual amount of time devoted to what Republicans and Democrats alike said was the most significant issue confronting the country.
House Republican Leader John Boehner appeared to choke back tears at one point as he read from a letter that a husband of a former congressional aide wrote home before being killed in Fallujah.
Pelosi led the House in a moment of silence, out of respect, she said, for those who fought, and "particularly those who have lost their lives in the war, and their families."
Supporters of the nonbinding resolution included 229 Democrats and 17 Republicans - fewer GOP defections than Democrats had hoped to get and the White House and its allies had feared. Two Democrats joined 180 Republicans in opposition.
The developments unfolded as a new poll showed more than half those surveyed view the war as a hopeless cause.
A sizable majority, 63 percent, opposes the decision to dispatch more troops, although support for Bush's plan has risen in the past few weeks from 26 percent to 35 percent, according to the AP-Ipsos poll.
The House measure disapproves of Bush's decision to increase troop strength, and pledges that Congress will "support and protect" the troops.
Bush has already said passage of the measure will not deter him from proceeding with the deployment of another 21,500 troops, designed primarily to quell sectarian violence in heavily populated Baghdad.
Already, troops of the Army's 82nd Airborne have arrived in Iraq. Another brigade is in Kuwait, undergoing final training before proceeding to Iraq. Three more brigades are ticketed for the Baghdad area, one each in March, April and May.
In addition, the Pentagon is sending two Marine battalions to Anbar Province in the western part of the country, the heart of the Sunni insurgency.
Bush and his allies in Congress calculated days ago that the House measure would pass, and increasingly have focused their energy on the next steps in the Democrats' attempt to end U.S. participation in the war.
"The President believes that the Congress should provide the full funding and flexibility our Armed Forces need to succeed in their mission to protect our country," said White House press secretary Tony Snow.
But Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., who chairs the committee that will review Bush's request, said, "the president wants a supplemental (spending bill). If he wants it, he's going to have to accept certain things."
Democrats have made clear in recent days they will use Bush's spending request to impose certain standards of readiness, training and rest for the troops.
"That stops the surge (in troops) for all intents and purposes, because ... they cannot sustain the deployment," Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said recently.
Republicans pointed to Murtha's remarks repeatedly during the day as evidence that despite their claims to the contrary, Democrats intend to cut off funds for the troops.
"This is all part of their plan to eliminate funding for our troops that are in harm's way. And we stand here as Republicans ... committed to making sure our troops in harm's way have all the funds and equipment they need to win this war in Iraq," said Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader.
Story Here
Also Blogging:
Sparks From The Anvil
Now For Something Different
[Conservative Intelligence Report]
Flopping Aces
Mike's America
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just get out the White Flags Now! What Congress just did gave our enemy's all the help they needed. Non-Binding or not this Resolution sent the most disgusting message to our Troops I didnt think this Country was capable of. Congress might just as well have said to the Troops "We Dont Trust You To Finish the job to the best of your ability!" Spineless Idiots!
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REPUBLICANS THAT CAVED AND VOTED FOR THE RESOLUTION;
MICHAEL CASTLE:
Delaware-At Large, Republican
1233 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515-0801
Phone: (202) 225-4165
HOWARD COBLE
North Carolina-6th, Republican
2468 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-3306
Phone: (202) 225-3065
TOM DAVIS
Virginia-11th, Republican
2348 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-4611
Phone: (202) 225-1492
JOHN J. DUNCAN JR.
TENNESSEE-2ND, REPUBLICAN
2207 RAYBURN HOB
WASHINGTON, DC 20515-4202
PHONE: (202) 225-5435
PHIL ENGLISH
PENNSYLVANIA-3RD, REPUBLICAN
2332 RAYBURN HOB
WASHINGTON, DC 20515-3803
PHONE: (202) 225-5406
WAYNE T. GILCHREST
Maryland-1st, Republican
2245 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-2001
Phone: (202) 225-5311
BOB INGLIS
South Carolina-4th, Republican
330 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515-4004
Phone: (202) 225-6030
TIMOTHY V. JOHNSON
Illinois-15th, Republican
1207 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515-1315
Phone: (202) 225-2371
WALTER B. JONES
North Carolina-3rd, Republican
2333 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-3303
Phone: (202) 225-3415
RIC KELLER
Florida-8th, Republican
419 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515-0908
Phone: (202) 225-2176
STEVEN C. LATOURETTE
Ohio-14th, Republican
2371 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-3514
Phone: (202) 225-5731
MARK STEVEN KIRK
Illinois-10th, Republican
1030 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515-1310
Phone: (202) 225-4835
RON PAUL
Texas-14th, Republican
203 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515-4314
Phone: (202) 225-2831
THOMAS E. PETRI
Wisconsin-6th, Republican
2462 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-4906
Phone: (202) 225-2476
JIM RAMSTAD
Minnesota-3rd, Republican
103 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515-2303
Phone: (202) 225-2871
FRED UPTON
Michigan-6th, Republican
2183 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-2206
Phone: (202) 225-3761
JAMES T. WALSH
New York-25th, Republican
2372 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-3225
Phone: (202) 225-3701
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Just in case anyone want's to give these Defeatest Morons a Piece of your mind! Not one dime should go from any of us toward these dimwits re-election campains.
UPDATE:
- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice paid an unannounced visit to Baghdad on Saturday, arriving as American and Iraqi troops made initial gains in a new crackdown against militants in the Iraqi capital.
Condi Rice pay's Troops In Iraq Unexpected Visit To Reassure Them They Are Supported No Matter What The Idiot's In Congress Have Done-Link At Bottom Of This Post
UPDATE:
Senate Fails To Pass Non-Binding Surrender Resolution
56-34
Story Here
WASHINGTON - The Democratic-controlled House issued a symbolic rejection of President Bush's decision to deploy more troops to Iraq on Friday, opening an epic confrontation between Congress and commander in chief over an unpopular war that has taken the lives of more than 3,100 U.S. troops.
The vote on the nonbinding measure was 246-182, and within minutes, Democrats said their next move would be to challenge Bush's request for $93 billion in new funds for the Pentagon.
"The stakes in Iraq are too high to recycle proposals that have little prospect for success," said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, leader of Democrats who gained power last fall in elections framed by public opposition to the war.
"The passage of this legislation will signal a change in direction in Iraq that will end the fighting and bring our troops home," she vowed after the vote, in which 17 Republicans joined 229 Democrats in a wartime rebuke to the president.
Citing recent comments by Democrats, Bush's Republican allies said repeatedly the measure would lead to attempts to cut off funds for the troops. Outnumbered, they turned to GOP Rep. Sam Johnson of Texas to close their case - and the former Vietnam prisoner of war stepped to the microphone as lawmakers in both parties rose to applaud his heroism.
"Now it's time to stand up for my friends who did not make it home, and for those who fought and died in Iraq already," he said. "We must not cut funding for our troops. We must stick by them," he added, snapping off a salute as he completed his remarks to yet another ovation.
Moving quickly, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., set a test vote for Saturday on an identical measure, and several presidential contenders in both parties rearranged their weekend campaign schedules to be present.
Republican senators said in advance they would deny Democrats the 60 votes needed to advance the resolution, adding they would insist on equal treatment for a GOP-drafted alternative that opposes any reduction in funds for the troops.
Even so there were signs of Republican restlessness on the issue. Only two members of the GOP rank and file sided with Democrats on an earlier procedural vote; the total figured to be higher this time.
The House vote completed a turnabout from the fall of 2002, when the House bowed, 296-133, to Bush's request to authorize military action against Iraqi ruler Saddam Hussein.
U.S.-led troops made quick work of his regime but soon found themselves targeted in a country where long-suppressed sectarian rivalries flared and outside forces rushed to intervene. Tens of thousands of Iraqis have died in the ensuing war, along with more than 3,100 U.S. troops.
Bush made no comment on the developments in the House, and his spokesman said the president was too busy to watch the proceedings on television.
After a secure videoconference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, Bush said the Iraqis reported providing troops to fight alongside Americans, making sure that no ethnic or religious factions are ignored in the security operations, providing $10 billion toward reconstruction and working on an oil revenue-sharing law.
"That's good news for the Iraqi people. And it should give people here in the United States confidence that his government knows its responsibilities and is following through on those responsibilities," Bush said.
More than 390 of 434 lawmakers spoke during nearly 45 hours of dignified debate that spilled across four days - an unusual amount of time devoted to what Republicans and Democrats alike said was the most significant issue confronting the country.
House Republican Leader John Boehner appeared to choke back tears at one point as he read from a letter that a husband of a former congressional aide wrote home before being killed in Fallujah.
Pelosi led the House in a moment of silence, out of respect, she said, for those who fought, and "particularly those who have lost their lives in the war, and their families."
Supporters of the nonbinding resolution included 229 Democrats and 17 Republicans - fewer GOP defections than Democrats had hoped to get and the White House and its allies had feared. Two Democrats joined 180 Republicans in opposition.
The developments unfolded as a new poll showed more than half those surveyed view the war as a hopeless cause.
A sizable majority, 63 percent, opposes the decision to dispatch more troops, although support for Bush's plan has risen in the past few weeks from 26 percent to 35 percent, according to the AP-Ipsos poll.
The House measure disapproves of Bush's decision to increase troop strength, and pledges that Congress will "support and protect" the troops.
Bush has already said passage of the measure will not deter him from proceeding with the deployment of another 21,500 troops, designed primarily to quell sectarian violence in heavily populated Baghdad.
Already, troops of the Army's 82nd Airborne have arrived in Iraq. Another brigade is in Kuwait, undergoing final training before proceeding to Iraq. Three more brigades are ticketed for the Baghdad area, one each in March, April and May.
In addition, the Pentagon is sending two Marine battalions to Anbar Province in the western part of the country, the heart of the Sunni insurgency.
Bush and his allies in Congress calculated days ago that the House measure would pass, and increasingly have focused their energy on the next steps in the Democrats' attempt to end U.S. participation in the war.
"The President believes that the Congress should provide the full funding and flexibility our Armed Forces need to succeed in their mission to protect our country," said White House press secretary Tony Snow.
But Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., who chairs the committee that will review Bush's request, said, "the president wants a supplemental (spending bill). If he wants it, he's going to have to accept certain things."
Democrats have made clear in recent days they will use Bush's spending request to impose certain standards of readiness, training and rest for the troops.
"That stops the surge (in troops) for all intents and purposes, because ... they cannot sustain the deployment," Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said recently.
Republicans pointed to Murtha's remarks repeatedly during the day as evidence that despite their claims to the contrary, Democrats intend to cut off funds for the troops.
"This is all part of their plan to eliminate funding for our troops that are in harm's way. And we stand here as Republicans ... committed to making sure our troops in harm's way have all the funds and equipment they need to win this war in Iraq," said Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader.
Story Here
Also Blogging:
Sparks From The Anvil
Now For Something Different
[Conservative Intelligence Report]
Flopping Aces
Mike's America
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just get out the White Flags Now! What Congress just did gave our enemy's all the help they needed. Non-Binding or not this Resolution sent the most disgusting message to our Troops I didnt think this Country was capable of. Congress might just as well have said to the Troops "We Dont Trust You To Finish the job to the best of your ability!" Spineless Idiots!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
REPUBLICANS THAT CAVED AND VOTED FOR THE RESOLUTION;
MICHAEL CASTLE:
Delaware-At Large, Republican
1233 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515-0801
Phone: (202) 225-4165
HOWARD COBLE
North Carolina-6th, Republican
2468 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-3306
Phone: (202) 225-3065
TOM DAVIS
Virginia-11th, Republican
2348 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-4611
Phone: (202) 225-1492
JOHN J. DUNCAN JR.
TENNESSEE-2ND, REPUBLICAN
2207 RAYBURN HOB
WASHINGTON, DC 20515-4202
PHONE: (202) 225-5435
PHIL ENGLISH
PENNSYLVANIA-3RD, REPUBLICAN
2332 RAYBURN HOB
WASHINGTON, DC 20515-3803
PHONE: (202) 225-5406
WAYNE T. GILCHREST
Maryland-1st, Republican
2245 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-2001
Phone: (202) 225-5311
BOB INGLIS
South Carolina-4th, Republican
330 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515-4004
Phone: (202) 225-6030
TIMOTHY V. JOHNSON
Illinois-15th, Republican
1207 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515-1315
Phone: (202) 225-2371
WALTER B. JONES
North Carolina-3rd, Republican
2333 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-3303
Phone: (202) 225-3415
RIC KELLER
Florida-8th, Republican
419 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515-0908
Phone: (202) 225-2176
STEVEN C. LATOURETTE
Ohio-14th, Republican
2371 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-3514
Phone: (202) 225-5731
MARK STEVEN KIRK
Illinois-10th, Republican
1030 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515-1310
Phone: (202) 225-4835
RON PAUL
Texas-14th, Republican
203 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515-4314
Phone: (202) 225-2831
THOMAS E. PETRI
Wisconsin-6th, Republican
2462 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-4906
Phone: (202) 225-2476
JIM RAMSTAD
Minnesota-3rd, Republican
103 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515-2303
Phone: (202) 225-2871
FRED UPTON
Michigan-6th, Republican
2183 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-2206
Phone: (202) 225-3761
JAMES T. WALSH
New York-25th, Republican
2372 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-3225
Phone: (202) 225-3701
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just in case anyone want's to give these Defeatest Morons a Piece of your mind! Not one dime should go from any of us toward these dimwits re-election campains.
UPDATE:
- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice paid an unannounced visit to Baghdad on Saturday, arriving as American and Iraqi troops made initial gains in a new crackdown against militants in the Iraqi capital.
posted by Marie's Two Cents | 10:01 PM
26 Comments:
I put a link over to your blog from mine Marie. I was exhausted after I got all the "accurate" information downloaded from the "Thomas" pages, the official records of Congress.
They have purposely made it much more difficult since the 110th has been sworn in to obtain accurate information on who is voting on what. This was a big problem before when The democrat was in control of congress before 1995. As soon as the Republicans were sworn in and the contract with America was employed, freedom of information about voting records were easy to obtain and the information available was accurate and complete.
We will decending back into the bad old dark age days when information will be unavailable because the democrat is now contolling the flow of information.
Rest assured the 2 North Carolina turncoats are destined for a healthy dressing down by yours truly!
As far as this latest example of the liberal-owned Democrats in action goes, it's only the beginning. I fear that America will have reason to deeply regret putting the angry left in charge last November. They will do all they can to insure defeat in Iraq and sabotage the War on Terror, and they'll punch as many holes as they can in the Patriot Act.
Hopefully, despite the propaganda of the MSM, the voting public will wake up before the next election.
Folks should also send an email to the National Republican Congressional Campaign Committee and put them on notice that they will only donate to individual candidates and no longer support Party Committees that are incapable of enforcing party discipline.
Jenn,
I swiped the info off your blog lol.
I know it was rough getting it, that link you sent me didnt give me any info on which ones were Republicans only the names of those that Voted Yea or Nay.
I went through Wordsmith's links and thought I had got it and then lost it and oh man what a task until I saw you had already done the research lol, made it easier on me haha. Thank's for all your hard work dearie :-)
I noticed they have made it harder to get this info even with the Freedom of Information Act, it's a Liberal Conspiracy I say!!
Seth,
I agree. They MUST be stopped NOW however! We HAVE to start calling these people, email doesnt seem to work as well.
We HAVE to put pressure on these Turncoats and let them know if they dont support our Troops there will not be any money coming thier way for thier next re-election campains!
You give the 2 Turcoats in NC hell, good for you!! It's a start!
Mike,
Great Idea!
It is truly time we start voicing opposition to this madness!
Or these loons are going to keep it up and there is no telling where all this will lead if we dont speak out NOW!
It's a lot harder than it used to be Marie. They are using the old tactics of obfuscating the bills and resolutions by using different numbers and posting the results under different numbers from the orignal bill numbers. This is an old tactic for them and if you aren't willing to follow the bill all the way through the number changes you will give up and rely on press releases from their sources which have been what we refer to now as the Mainstream Media.
It's like the twilight zone and I have been transported back in time to the 1970's or 1980's when the democrat did all that it could to pull the wool over the eyes of the public with the willing accomplices in the press.
I'll tell you what we really need, it's Newtie and the boys, they know how this game works. He's sitting back right now waiting for the dumb ass Republican leadership to beg him to come back and help out. I don't blame him either. They let Newtie hang out to dry when he needed their backup. I hope he decides to jump back in because his sense of what to do to defeat the democrat is sorely needed at the top.
blogger's acting up again, and I've been having a helluva time commenting here.
Just wanted to say great job on your post, Marie. I'll be sure to update my previous post with links to you and jennifer, and of course my buddy curt at flopping aces, along with Mike and anyone else I find who is blogging on this.
I'm a little behind.
Marie,
Hope you're feeling better. Take it easy. The worst thing to do when you're not well is to get worked up over politics. Don't do it. Eat good whole food and listen to some Mozart or Shubert. Read some of JG's poetry.
Get well.
If I lived nearby, I'd make you a pot of chicken soup, and a made- from-scratch lemon meringue pie.
That should be SChubert. Why do I make so many mistakes when I type in comments?
Mrs. Green said...That should be SChubert. Why do I make so many mistakes when I type in comments?
It's the little boxes. You're not the only one that gets frustrated with mistakes. I used to use a Word document with every comment I would make and there would be no mistakes but I got tired of doing that. Now I just suffer through my own mistakes and I try to proof read a little better too but the little boxes definitely have something to do with it. Even the liberal lingusitcs professor I used to spar with admitted that typing messages in the small boxes had an effect on typos, spelling and grammar.
Hi Marie,
Well why worry about typos, as long as one gets the gist.
I think that is great that Condi showed up to show support for the Troops.
Remember folks...."preview" is your best friend.
And failing that, just right click, hit "back"; cut and paste what you want; go forward and delete; then repost.
I contacted my local rep via email, he's a democrat. Unfortunately I was so hot my reply was probably comical in retrospect. He won't reply back.
BTW Marie, I like the quote at the top ("America has problems, but we are not the problem"). Well said.
night rider said:
I think that is great that Condi showed up to show support for the Troops.
Is this how our country supports the troops who've been wounded in defending America? This is a disgrace--and this isn't a matter of partisanship. I imagine Democrats AND Republicans may have some responsibility in this.
Rotten Homecoming
This is no way to treat a veteran.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007; Page
IF YOU LISTEN to the PR operation at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, the U.S. military's gleaming flagship hospital offers veterans the best treatment available. What doesn't get mentioned is the bureaucratic contempt and physical squalor that too often await badly injured outpatient soldiers on the Walter Reed campus, the subject of a four-month Post investigation detailed in articles published Sunday and Monday.
Reporters Dana Priest and Anne Hull and researcher Julie Tate spent hundreds of hours inspecting conditions and interviewing injured troops and their loved ones at the Walter Reed outpatient facilities. Their findings: Veterans' rooms are rank; bureaucratic hassles and paper-pushing make the process of repairing buildings, redressing patient grievances and providing veterans with basic goods depressingly inept; administrators' neglect of patients' mental and physical health borders on the criminal; and, most distressing, many veterans leave Walter Reed without the compensation they clearly deserve for their sacrifices.
The walls of one soldier's room were covered with black mold, and the ceiling of his shower had a large hole. Soldiers who lost their uniforms while undergoing emergency treatment on the battlefield have had to present their purple hearts to get replacement clothes. Amputees and patients on taxing drug regimens are required to report for formation early in the morning, even if it means trudging over accumulated ice and snow. Lost paperwork, which in one case resulted in an obviously impaired veteran getting an order to report to Germany, is a constant problem, sometimes forcing soldiers and their relatives to live at Walter Reed for 18 months or longer as their cases are processed.
Well, now that the Democrats are promising, " "There will be resolution after resolution, amendment after amendment . . . just like in the days of Vietnam," I guess it won't be long before the more highly-evolved carbon-based life forms can go back to spitting on returning veterans as they did in 1969.
Sounds pretty progressive to me.
Incidentally, the quote comes from Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY). You can find it here:
http://geobay.com/30f20d
Jenn,
It's a lot harder than it used to be Marie. They are using the old tactics of obfuscating the bills and resolutions by using different numbers and posting the results under different numbers from the orignal bill numbers. This is an old tactic for them and if you aren't willing to follow the bill all the way through the number changes you will give up and rely on press releases from their sources which have been what we refer to now as the Mainstream Media.
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Well I'm sure glad you can cut through all the clutter and get the information out there Jenn :-)
Word,
blogger's acting up again, and I've been having a helluva time commenting here.
Just wanted to say great job on your post, Marie. I'll be sure to update my previous post with links to you and jennifer, and of course my buddy curt at flopping aces, along with Mike and anyone else I find who is blogging on this.
I'm a little behind.
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Thank's Word.
Dont worry I have been so sick lately I have alot of catching up to do, behind is an understatment about now for me lol.
Mrs Green,
Marie,
Hope you're feeling better. Take it easy. The worst thing to do when you're not well is to get worked up over politics. Don't do it. Eat good whole food and listen to some Mozart or Shubert. Read some of JG's poetry.
Get well.
If I lived nearby, I'd make you a pot of chicken soup, and a made- from-scratch lemon meringue pie.
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Oh please Mrs Green dont tempt me with that wonderful food you cook!
However just thinking about it is enough to make me start thinking about getting well lol.
You know someday I am going to convert you over to my side, and move to Boston and let you take care of me lol.
Mrs Green,
That should be SChubert. Why do I make so many mistakes when I type in comments?
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If we all went over each other typos we wouldnt have anything else to discuss lol
It doesnt really matter anymore we all know what we are talking about.
Night,
Hi Marie,
Well why worry about typos, as long as one gets the gist.
I think that is great that Condi showed up to show support for the Troops.
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That's true, I LOVE Condi, she works so hard during such difficult times.
A.C.
I contacted my local rep via email, he's a democrat. Unfortunately I was so hot my reply was probably comical in retrospect. He won't reply back.
BTW Marie, I like the quote at the top ("America has problems, but we are not the problem"). Well said.
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Well good try A.C. lol
Thank's but I stole the quote from Fox News, I Loved it when I saw it and I had to have it!
Mrs Green,
Is this how our country supports the troops who've been wounded in defending America? This is a disgrace--and this isn't a matter of partisanship. I imagine Democrats AND Republicans may have some responsibility in this.
Rotten Homecoming
This is no way to treat a veteran.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007; Page
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I am totally lost on this and most issues going on right now due to being sick, (OH except that I know Anna Nicole Smith is still dead) but when I find out about all that I will comment on it further.
Uncle P,
Well, now that the Democrats are promising, " "There will be resolution after resolution, amendment after amendment . . . just like in the days of Vietnam," I guess it won't be long before the more highly-evolved carbon-based life forms can go back to spitting on returning veterans as they did in 1969.
Sounds pretty progressive to me.
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Not if they want to live to see the next day if I see that happens in my presence!!!!!
I will head on over to Yall's blogs later I gotta go back to bed. But I will visit yall, dont think I have deserted you. I'm just a bit under the weather, and am thinking about moving in with Mrs Green and letting her take care of me :-)
I am working on getting well, it just might take me a little bit.
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