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April 16, 2008

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The Pope Is Here !!!!

Pope Watch:

Thousands Of Bitter, Bible Thumping, Gun Toting, Angry, Antipathetic, People Line PopeMobile Route.

President Bush Welcomes Pope To White House

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Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

nice Marie!...of course the Mussssssslims dont wanna see him..o well!

April 16, 2008 3:36 PM  
Anonymous Joanne said...

The Pope's organization, the Catholic Church, wants to ex-communicate any American Catholic politician who supports the right to a legal abortion, the law of the land, even if they themselves do not personally believe in it.

This is the same organization that did not ex-communicate ADOLF HITLER. MURDERER OF 6 MILLION PEOPLE. And the same organization who celebrated a Requiem Mass upon the death of Adolf Hitler, even though he commited suicide, a mortal sin in Catholicism and one that disallows burial in consecrated ground, and yet they honored ADOLF HITLER with a special Mass for the dead when the monsterous coward killed himself.

Not one Cardinal, Bishop, Monsignor or priest who participated in shuffling predatory priests who molested and raped children (felonies) was ex-communicated for their crimes. Not one.

Go ahead and celebrate this man and the organization he heads. Nice.

April 16, 2008 6:01 PM  
Blogger Jenn of the Jungle said...

Who Jo, get off the bitter bus. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi.... when will they every think of a new bad guy.

So where do I get myself a Popemobile?

April 16, 2008 9:28 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

I welcome the Pope. The Pope praised the US for our exceptionalism, something that you never hear from democrats. We are the best nation on earth and the Pope thinks so too! I think the Catholic church has every right to expel anyone that claims to be a Catholic but acts against Catholic beliefs.

Here in Philadelphia there are a few Priests that are serving time for their actions as child molesters. Cardinal Anthony Bevilaqua was chewed out and dressed down by the majority of Priests that met with him about the situation at St Joseph's University back in 2001 or was it 2002. The whole situation was handled poorly but the true faithful have prevailed as it always happens.

April 16, 2008 11:32 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

I was wrong, it was the Priests meeting with the newly appointed Cardinal Rigali at St Charles Seminary and it was just after the release of the Philadelphia District attorney's report on pedophile Priests in 2005.
Priests weigh in

It was in all the papers and Cardinal Rigali got quite the earful from the Priests, so to say nothing was done or no one was prosecuted is untrue. John Cardinal Law of Boston was probably the very worst offender and he still hasn't been brought to justice and that's just plain wrong in my view. I am not going to paint the whole organization as being corrupt because of pedophile Priests and and a hierarchy that is out of touch. This had to come to head and a major house cleaning had to be made.

As far as this Pope's involvement is concerned, he was right in the middle of it. He's 81 years old and handled all of this for John Paul II. I'll just have leave the judgment to God about what he has done and leave the decisions to what needs to be done next by the people of the Catholic faith. They already know I'm sure.

April 16, 2008 11:55 PM  
Anonymous Joanne said...

It was in all the papers and Cardinal Rigali got quite the earful from the Priests, so to say nothing was done or no one was prosecuted is untrue.

Actually, if you reread my comment, I do not say "nothing was done or no one was prosecuted."

I simply stated that none of the criminal priests who molested and raped childen was ex-communicated--nor was Adolf Hitler for his heinous crimes.

Some priests were punished under the laws of this country--others, like Cardinal Law, who aided and abetted criminals, were given a new job in Rome.

What I pointed out is that no one was ex-communicated--as the Church is proposing for Catholic politicians who uphold the law of this country, but who may personally not sanction abortion.

There is a phrase in the Bible, spoken by Jesus, that goes something like this, "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's and unto God the things which are God's."

I am pointing out that the Pope's organization is proposing ex-communication for people who uphold the law of the United States, but that same organization did not ex-communicate real live criminals who broke many laws by approving the slaughter of millions of people (Hitler) or aiding and abetting child rapists and abuseers.

That's my only point.

April 17, 2008 3:50 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

All I know is somehow this Pope felt it was time to come to America and give America an uplift and he was just in time.

You dont have to be Catholic to feel this Presence.

I dont see where Hitler fits in at all with this Pope's visit.

As for the PopeMobile isnt that cute?

The Pope seems like he needed to catch THIS President before he is out of office and give him a pat on the back and a prayer.

This is just an awsome event :-)

April 17, 2008 10:11 AM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

They were handing out rosary beads too?

Looks like it's quite a thrill to be at one of these events in person.

April 17, 2008 2:14 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I would have so loved to go.

This is like a once in a lifetime event.

Just his mere Presence knowing he's here is truly uplifting :-)

April 17, 2008 2:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't imagine why Joanne would have left out the part about the Pope being in the Hitler Youth. Of course, he was 12 years old when membership was made mandatory in 1939.
She must be slipping.

April 17, 2008 7:09 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

I understand you comparison Joanne but the facts you use to make the comaprison are wrong.

Here's the real story about Hitler and the Catholic Church. I went through the same type of misinformation about the Lutheran Church (of which I belong) with an anti Christian bigot that had read and watched a BBC special back in the 90's that was as anti Christian as and inaccurate as could be.

Pope Pius XI was the Pope at the beginning of Hitler's reign of terror and Pope Pius XII was Pope during the German occupation of Italy in the 1940s. Pope Pius XII was accused of doing little to help Jews during the war but the 800 thousand Jews he helped escaped have a different story. The Government of Israel has noted and honored Pope Pius XII in many ways for his remarkable feats and putting the power of the Church behind rescuing over 800 thousand Jews from the Nazi death camps. It has been innacurately reported that Hitler was never excommunicated but the real story is;
Pope Pius XII is also sometimes criticized for not excommunicating Hitler, but Hitler was already excommunicated ipso facto for a whole range of crimes and could only have returned to the Catholic faith, even assuming that he would ever have wanted to, by having his excommunication lifted by the Pope himself. The lifting of the sentence was reserved to the Holy See, latae sententiae. Besides, the complaint assumes that Hitler took some notice of the Holy See and the Catholic Church. Insofar as he did, it was for purely political reasons, since he was forced to recognize the influence of the Catholic Church and the papacy. Hitler described himself as "a complete pagan" (see Hitler’s Table Talk) and regarded the Catholic Church as his greatest enemy, which he would destroy when he had the opportunity.

The Catholic League

The Jewish Virtual Library

April 17, 2008 10:13 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

What is it with all of these religious people bad-mouthing America? I mean, we're America, we've never done anything wrong.

I think Bush should renounce and reject his relationship with the Pope. That kind of hate speech is simply unacceptable.

Pope laments U.S. 'injustices' to blacks, Indians

"To be sure, this promise was not experienced by all the inhabitants of this land; one thinks of the injustices endured by the native American peoples and by those brought here forcibly from Africa as slaves."

I can't stand all of this hate speech towards America. And...the Pope didn't even have his flag lapel pin on!

April 18, 2008 12:42 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Well Uncle P,

I dont see the relevance in bringing up Hitler at all in this visit by the Pope, but you guys are welcome to have at it lol



Isnt this a rephreshing change from God Da** America to God Bless America?

That's the difference in your party and mine.

Just enjoy the Pope's visit and quit swaking!

April 18, 2008 2:23 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

I'm sure his message is more, "God Bless Everyone" not just "God Bless America"...remember, God is not Republican.

But I was astonished at the Pope blasting America for its past transgressions against Native Americans and Africans! How could he criticize America? We're never wrong!

April 18, 2008 3:02 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I'm sure his message is more, "God Bless Everyone" not just "God Bless America"...remember, God is not Republican.

But I was astonished at the Pope blasting America for its past transgressions against Native Americans and Africans! How could he criticize America? We're never wrong!

The Pope is in America, that was his message while visiting the White House "God Bless America"

I dont know why I alway's have to do your homework for you but here's the link.

Popes Message: God Bless America

He can bless everyone as he travels the rest of his journey here.

The Pope blasted Nations that commit Human Rights Violations, and didnt name any names. You can add what and who you like to that list if you want.

But he didnt Blast America, geez why cant you keep up?

April 18, 2008 3:22 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

See Marie, it was easy Faux guy exposed his true feelings of hate America first. He's an America hater and it's pretty obvious and it didn't take much to smoke him out. Faux guy has never had any credibility at any of the blogs he vists except where he posts how much he despises American excetionalism. Back to the daily kook and huffy po with you troll boy at least learn how to fake being credible. Whah, whah, I hate America and no one is listening whah, whah.

April 18, 2008 9:34 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...


You are as hooked on that huffypo/daily kook talking point as O'Reilly is with interviewing internet porn stars: you both have a deep affinity for them.
Maybe this is your way of getting caught for visiting those websites?

Just like Mark Foley was championing against sexual exploitation of children and Larry Craig against gay marriage...

Hypocrisy will always be the Republican Achilles Heel.

Hate America? Nah. Not me. Your tired, ignorant talking points are so lacking in substance that you come off as one of those dolls that you simply pull the cord and you get this:

"You're either with us or against us"

"America hater"


"I was in the Navy!...wah wah wah

"Obama sounds like Osama"

"He wasn't wearing a flag lapel pin" (by the way most are made in China)

And on, and on, and on....ZZZZzzzz

You make me tired J_G. I'm like Fred Thompson: I need a nap now.

April 19, 2008 6:27 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I am beginning to think he cant help being Mentally Handicapped!



Look at all those Bible Thumping, Gun Toting, Nascar Watching, Country Music Listening, Flag Pin Wearing, Bitter people lined up to see the Pope in New York.

LOL, They dont look bitter to me

I bet Obama is sick over this.

April 19, 2008 10:51 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Why would Obama be sick over a throng of Christians flocking to see the Pope? Obama is a Christian.

McCain and his pastor might have more of a problem with it since his pastor called the Catholic Church "a whore".

And by the way...when do flag lapel pins from China make one patriotic?


April 19, 2008 3:38 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


You seem to be more bitter than the thousands coming out to see the Pope LOL

April 21, 2008 9:57 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

No, not bitter. Life's too short.

To think that small town people, who when faced with economic hard times and failed promise after failed promise, that they don't surround themselves with familiar things like their faith, like-minded people of the same race who play gin and euchre and go to a Friday night fish fry and who go hunting on Saturday mornings, if don't think that is true then you DO NOT UNDERSTAND SMALL TOWN AMERICA! There was nothing elitist about that and it is entirely the truth.

I grew up in a small town of 1200 people in central Illinois and I can tell you that is EXACTLY the case because I still visit there and most of my family still lives there.

April 21, 2008 4:05 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Where on earth do you think I live?
I'm in Oklahoma!

I am in Rural small town America! And we cling to Religion, Guns, so forth, because WE WANT TO, not because we are bitter!

What I am bitter about however is the Democrats got elected to the House and Senate on promises that they didnt keep and somehow we get the blame for thier mess ups.

Then again that's nothing new.

I have family in Illinois myself, Cousins. In Dekalb.

But I'm pretty darn sure after not staying in touch with my cousins over the last few years that they are holding on to thier religion and guns because they want to also, they sure arent bitter!

April 21, 2008 4:25 PM  

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