Kerry Ridicules Troops "AGAIN", Says "Soldiers Stupid"
Well It Looks Like Our Uneducated Troops In Iraq Have Quite A Message For Kerry LMAO...Boy Did Kerry Piss Off The Troops This Time
It is NO longer Unclear where the Democrat's stand on our Troops, They all despise them and think they are Stupid. Thank You Senator Kerry for letting us in on this.
John Kerry: U.S. Soldiers Not 'Smart'
Bush: Kerry's Remarks 'Insulting'
Bush: Kerry Owes Military an Apology
Sen. John Kerry has sparked outrage by suggesting that U.S. troops in Iraq are uneducated and not "smart.”
At a campaign event for California gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides at Pasadena City College on Monday, the Massachusetts Democrat and Vietnam veteran said: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”
Kerry’s troop-bashing remarks belie the truth about the educational level of U.S. troops. According to figures readily available on the Internet, 99.9 percent of the enlisted forces have at least a high school education, 73.3 percent have some college, 16.2 percent have an associate’s degree or equivalent semester hours, and 4.7 have a bachelor’s degree.
What’s more, over 85 percent of field grade officers have advanced degrees – 70.7 percent have master’s degrees, 12.1 percent have professional degrees and 2.5 percent have doctorate degrees.
"Senator Kerry not only owes an apology to those who are serving, but also to the families of those who’ve given their lives in this,” White House press secretary Tony Snow said regarding Kerry’s remarks.
"This is an absolute insult.”
Sen. John McCain, another Vietnam veteran, also called on Kerry to apologize, saying: "The suggestion that only the least educated Americans would agree to serve in the military and fight in Iraq is an insult to every soldier serving in combat.”
Kerry on Tuesday tried to deflect the criticism by issuing a statement accusing Snow and "assorted right-wing nut-jobs” (I guess that means us) of distorting the remarks "to divert attention from their disastrous record.” (What disatrerous record is Kerry talking about? The fact we havent been attacked in 5 years? The booming economy? 3 Elections, a Government Formed, and the Iraqi's soon to take the lead in thier own Security? 50 Million People Freed between Iraq and Afghanistan? What the hell is Kerry talking about?)
He added, in a seeming non sequitur: "I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.” (Sorry Kerry you stepped in this one yourself)
VIDEO: KERRY WARNS STUDENTS: EDUCATE YOURSELF, OR YOU'LL GET STUCK IN IRAQ...
VIDEO: BUSH: KERRY COMMENTS 'INSULTING AND SHAMEFUL...
VIDEO: BUSH: KERRY COMMENTS 'INSULTING AND SHAMEFUL.. THE MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY ARE PLENTY SMART, AND THEY ARE PLENTY BRAVE... AND THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS OWES THEM AN APOLOGY'...
AMERICAN LEGION: APOLOGIZE NOW...
Vet Group expresses 'disbelief, disappointment'...
Kerry: "I Aplogize to No One"
Novak: Kerry Hysterical
Mother of son killed in Iraq urges Kerry to learn more about military...
Iowa candidate asks Kerry to cancel campaign visit...
Kerry: I Botched The Joke..(Joke My Ass)
*Kerry Cancels Minnesota Appearance...
CNN: Casey Has Canceled Plans To Campaign With Kerry In Philadelphia Tonight...
VIDEO: IMUS TO KERRY: 'Please stop it. Stop talking. Go home, get on the bike'...
TN Harold Ford asks Kerry to apologize...
More Dems Pile On..Dems Join GOP Demand Kerry Apology
HILLARY: KERRY MILITARY COMMENTS 'INAPPROPRIATE'...
DEAN: BLOOPERS HAPPEN...
Murtha: Kerry 'needs to explain' what he meant...
KERRY ISSUES APOLOGY...TO LITTLE TO LATE
This is NO Apology, he say's he's sorry the Troops and the American People Misinterpeted what he said!! What an Arrogant Bastard!
Kerry's '72 Comments Mirror Latest: 'A volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown'...
GIS DROP SMART BOMB ON KERRY
SEYMOUR HERSH 'There has never been an American army as violent and murderous as the one in Iraq'...
Rove: Insulting Military Is a Kerry 'Habit'...
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PISS OFF KERRY! Just because YOU werent the sharpest tool in the shed when YOU were in the Military doesnt mean you can ridicule our Fine Troops today, but then that's typical from THE ENTIRE DEMOCRAT PARTY! There is your proof. This is where the Democrat's stand on supporting our Troops by calling them STUPID! Kerry summed it up for the ENTIRE DEMOCRAT PARTY. I cant believe this, Kerry owes The ENTIRE Military and thier families an apology. Not some distortion that the Troops and the American people misinterpeted what he said. Shame On You Kerry, Shame On You!
I Guess This Is What Kerry Means By Our Soldiers Torturing Iraqi Women And Children
FOR AMERICA'S SAKE, VOTE REPUBLICAN NOVEMBER 7, 2006!
I figure why do thousand's of post's on this I just keep adding to this post, so keep checking links for UPDATES:
posted by Marie's Two Cents | 10:02 PM
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As a retired jarhead (Beirut era) and the uncle of two other jarheads and a PO2 in the Navy, I am beyond furious with his comments!
And THIS S**T is what we have to look forward to for the next two years if the Dems win??
Marie, I'll comment more on this in the morning, I'm getting ready for work. Just got watching O'Reilly. Dem consultant he was interviewing said it all about this while defending Kerry. "A bad day in Iraq is a good day for dems" (her words not mine). See if you can find out her name, she was the dem consultant on the top view while O'reilly was questioning them.
No more blogger beta for me until they straighten things out.
Trek,
As a retired jarhead (Beirut era) and the uncle of two other jarheads and a PO2 in the Navy, I am beyond furious with his comments!
And THIS S**T is what we have to look forward to for the next two years if the Dems win??
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Well first off Thank's for your Service to Our Country.
I'm beyond furious with Kerry myself. I sure wasnt expecting this crap.
Yeah the S*** is what we have to look forward to if the Democrat's win.
I think Kerry just told everyone how the Democrat's feel about the Troops.
If we were ever in doubt, we know now.
JG,
Marie, I'll comment more on this in the morning, I'm getting ready for work. Just got watching O'Reilly. Dem consultant he was interviewing said it all about this while defending Kerry. "A bad day in Iraq is a good day for dems" (her words not mine). See if you can find out her name, she was the dem consultant on the top view while O'reilly was questioning them.
No more blogger beta for me until they straighten things out.
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I only caught part of Orielly tonight some of that I didnt see.
I hope you just leave that Beta Crap Alone.
By the way this whole Kerry episode sure got in the way of what I had planned to do, a Candidate of any power in the Democrat party a day. (The consequences if they win)
I did Conyers he's right underneath this.
I may have to post under this post about Kerry for a bit because I think this Kerry thing caught fire and now it's gonna burn.
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The dems have floated a couple of explanations for this obvious swipe at our loyal and unwavering men and women serving this country. John Kerry is a condecending and arrogant individual that believes he is the one that should have won the election because he is obviously superior to the rest of us idiots.
Well, as it turns out, this arrogant Herman Munster look alike (sorry Herman) had grades in Yale that clearly inferior to those of you guessed it, George Bush.
John Kerry is neither smart nor honorable and he represents a party that is pretty much on the same level any more questions?
JG,
The dems have floated a couple of explanations for this obvious swipe at our loyal and unwavering men and women serving this country. John Kerry is a condecending and arrogant individual that believes he is the one that should have won the election because he is obviously superior to the rest of us idiots.
Well, as it turns out, this arrogant Herman Munster look alike (sorry Herman) had grades in Yale that clearly inferior to those of you guessed it, George Bush.
John Kerry is neither smart nor honorable and he represents a party that is pretty much on the same level any more questions?
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Well Kerry should get over it, and not take it out on our troops.
And "Herman" as you lovingly call him lol, really blew it.
He said this was some botched one liner he was making about the President!@#$%$#@!
If you watch the Video and Listen to this (And I'm sure this will be all over the radio and tv today, as well as attached to my blog) the President wasnt in this particular portion of the conversation AT ALL!! Kerry was speaking to kids. My first take on this whole thing before he tried to squeeze in the "Botched Joke" thing was, Kerry was trying to disuade other kids from joining the Military giving them a clue they would get stuck in Iraq. (Which I already felt was over the top) I heard the whole damn thing and the President wasnt even mentioned (In that area of the talk if that's what you want to call it)
None of us should let this go until Kerry apologises, but now it's a little to late.
Marie, as you know, my part in winning the Cold War was mostly about showing Victory at Sea reruns at a Navy base TV station. But I'm having a hard time getting worked up about the latest bonehead remark from the junior senator from Chappaquiddick.
Back when LBJ was president, teachers would routinely tell us seventh-graders that we needed to study hard and do well in school, lest we be drafted, sent to Vietnam and killed. This is an old theme that the Haunted Tree returns to, and it's just more evidence of who the Democrats are.
Happy motoring...
P.S. Now can we start questioning his patriotism? Just asking...
Soldiers are mostly from poor families, especially in the USA. Both Bush and Cheney avoided the army and avoid questions about it.
The fact that the poor are usually not very educated reflects the fact that most higher education in the US is very expensive. Poor people are mostly excluded from it. If you don't have a college degree you are unlikely to get a good job, and blue collar jobs are going to China Mexico and India, making the rich people that own the people exporting those jobs richer.
Increasingly middle income americans are affected too, mostly through their children.
Whereas C students like Bush succeed based on their parents money not their own efforts, so this is hardly meritocracy.
As we live in a world were the rich can avoid the army, saying that poor people are the ones fighting the war is not a lie... Just think about it...
Both Bush and Cheney avoided going to Vietnam by Bush getting his rich family to intervene for him to guard the fearsome invaders in Texas, at the bar, armed with several bottles of alcohol. Whereas Cheney used university as a reason not to go.
If they had fought in a war i would have much more time in listening to Bush or Cheney talk about the necessity of war, the reality is neither has experienced it...
Well, George W. Bush did technically "avoid the Army", but he did so by becoming a fighter pilot for the U.S. Air Force and flying F-104s for the Texas Air National Guard.
As for his grades, they were actually better than John Kerry's, a fact which didn't surface until after the 2004 election.
By the way, Mako, since you have such contempt for people who did not serve in the military, perhaps you could share some of the details of your time in the service.
Just to, you know, put things in perspective.
Just dropping in to see the knee jerk reaction to Kerry's joke about Bush, which the right is deliberately misreading as an insult on the troops because the right thinks that'll win them the election.
Even right-wing pundits agree Kerry did not slam the troops--John Derbyshire, Andy Sullivan.
But more to the point, getting educational deferments to avoid serving one's country is a Republican family value--just ask Dick "I had better things to do" Cheney. He received five deferments and got out of serving his country in Viet Nam. The poor kids who didn't go to college (a cousin of mine) ended up fighting and dying in Viet Nam. And that, my friends, is the truth.
Get over it. Next Tuesday a hard rain's gonna fall.
Uncle p,
Marie, as you know, my part in winning the Cold War was mostly about showing Victory at Sea reruns at a Navy base TV station. But I'm having a hard time getting worked up about the latest bonehead remark from the junior senator from Chappaquiddick.
Back when LBJ was president, teachers would routinely tell us seventh-graders that we needed to study hard and do well in school, lest we be drafted, sent to Vietnam and killed. This is an old theme that the Haunted Tree returns to, and it's just more evidence of who the Democrats are.
Happy motoring...
P.S. Now can we start questioning his patriotism? Just asking...
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I think we have been questioning Kerry's Patriotism since he took the medals (He supposedly earned) and threw them over the White House Wall.
Or did we start questioning his patriotism when he sat in front of a Senate Select Sub-Committee and started talking about how he raised villages, and killed innocent woman and children?
Either way I question his patriotism NO LONGER. HE DOESNT HAVE A PARTIOTIC BONE IN HIS BODY!
Mack,
Soldiers are mostly from poor families, especially in the USA. Both Bush and Cheney avoided the army and avoid questions about it.
The fact that the poor are usually not very educated reflects the fact that most higher education in the US is very expensive. Poor people are mostly excluded from it. If you don't have a college degree you are unlikely to get a good job, and blue collar jobs are going to China Mexico and India, making the rich people that own the people exporting those jobs richer.
Increasingly middle income americans are affected too, mostly through their children.
Whereas C students like Bush succeed based on their parents money not their own efforts, so this is hardly meritocracy.
As we live in a world were the rich can avoid the army, saying that poor people are the ones fighting the war is not a lie... Just think about it...
Both Bush and Cheney avoided going to Vietnam by Bush getting his rich family to intervene for him to guard the fearsome invaders in Texas, at the bar, armed with several bottles of alcohol. Whereas Cheney used university as a reason not to go.
If they had fought in a war i would have much more time in listening to Bush or Cheney talk about the necessity of war, the reality is neither has experienced it...
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You know you need to either put the Pipe or the Kool-Aid down.
I dont know where you come up with your statistics and they are clearly stated on the front of this story, but overall in every branch of the Military 99.3% are High School Graduates and 97.6% have some college. It isnt as easy as you think to get into the Military.
Bush NEVER served in the Army dufuss. He served in the Air National Guard. And to say neither President Bush or Dick Cheney never served thier Country, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW?
I think you are the one uneducated pal!
Well, George W. Bush did technically "avoid the Army", but he did so by becoming a fighter pilot for the U.S. Air Force and flying F-104s for the Texas Air National Guard.
As for his grades, they were actually better than John Kerry's, a fact which didn't surface until after the 2004 election.
By the way, Mako, since you have such contempt for people who did not serve in the military, perhaps you could share some of the details of your time in the service.
Just to, you know, put things in perspective.
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What Uncle P said!
Shaw,
Just dropping in to see the knee jerk reaction to Kerry's joke about Bush, which the right is deliberately misreading as an insult on the troops because the right thinks that'll win them the election.
Even right-wing pundits agree Kerry did not slam the troops--John Derbyshire, Andy Sullivan.
But more to the point, getting educational deferments to avoid serving one's country is a Republican family value--just ask Dick "I had better things to do" Cheney. He received five deferments and got out of serving his country in Viet Nam. The poor kids who didn't go to college (a cousin of mine) ended up fighting and dying in Viet Nam. And that, my friends, is the truth.
Get over it. Next Tuesday a hard rain's gonna fall.
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That was NO joke about President Bush and you know it. That was a direct shot over the bow at our Military. Kerry either needs to apologise, nah nevermind it's to late for that now or resign.
Even your own party is running away from knucklehead today, all his campaign appearences are cancelled, some he did himself, and others DIDNT WANT HIM THERE.
Gee I wasnt aware Dick Cheney was even part of this "Supposed" joke. How did he get drug into this?
You guys can spin this all you want but Kerry has the Military, thier Families, Veterens, and our Fabulous Soldiers fighting for his right to trash them PISSED!!
It isnt going to rain next Tuesday, it's going to HAIL, and if I were you I wouldnt be standing out in it for to long, it might warp your brain more than it already has!
Mack,
Soldiers are mostly from poor families, especially in the USA. Both Bush and Cheney avoided the army and avoid questions about it.
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Going back over your rediculous drivel I missed your first statement.
Do you have any evidence to prove Soldiers come from poor families? You are missing a very important point here, rich or poor every single Soldier that is on active duty right now said "Send Me"
And you just proved all of our point's, it's clear that you on the Left DONT GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT OUR MILITARY.
Sometimes it's smarter to be quiet and make people wonder if you are ignorant, but Kerry and you people on the left have opened your mouths and removed all doubt.
Hey, Marie...Suppose Lurch's joke had gone off as planned. What would he have been saying? That if you don't study and don't try to be smart, you might end up like George W. Bush? You might end up, in other words to be the President of the United States!
Loser derangement syndrome strikes again.
Uncle P,
Hey, Marie...Suppose Lurch's joke had gone off as planned. What would he have been saying? That if you don't study and don't try to be smart, you might end up like George W. Bush? You might end up, in other words to be the President of the United States!
Loser derangement syndrome strikes again.
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Ha! I didnt think about that. If you study hard and get good grades you might wind up to be the President of the United States!! Hell Yeah!
Unfortunatley, it was a direct hit against our Military, they are "Stupid" 'Kerry's Words'. Kerry should be taken out behind the Woodshed and beat to a pulp!
Oh boy, real meat for me Marie,
Macko usko, You're an uninformed liberal that is repeating a mantra that is just not true. The men and women in the armed services today are better educated and more highly trained than most liberals will ever hope to be by the end of their pointless lives.
Kerry meant exactly what he said and he has been uninvited to speak at even the most uncontested races in the country. We all knew what he meant, he looks down his crooked nose at everyone that hasn't married a rich affluent wife for her money.
Didn't you read my facts about John Kerry at Yale. Geroge Bush had higher grades than John Kerry.
So let's sum this up. Soldiers aren't poor people, and they are better educated than the majority of liberals.
George Bush is smarter than John Kerry.
John Kerry has nothing but contempt for the men and women that serve the country in uniform. Liberals should not be running away from his statements but embracing his statements instead because you have expressed the same sentiments in your comments.
There was no joke involved here witrh John Kerry except that he was elected to office in the first place, the joke is on the people of Massachusetts but they're not laughing now.
Holy Moly! Look at the firestorm here! I go away for a couple weeks and all hell breaks loose!
John Kerry did not insult the troops, no matter how you spin it.
Do you guys remember when Bush made his jokes about not finding the WMDs at the Radio and Television Correspondents' Association Dinner in March of 2004?
Bush showed a photo of himself looking for something out a window in the Oval Office, and he said, "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere."
The audience laughed. But that wasn't the end of it. After a few more slides, there was a shot of Bush looking under furniture in the Oval Office. "Nope," he said. "No weapons over there." More laughter. Then another picture of Bush searching in his office: "Maybe under here." Laughter again.
There's Bush making comedy over the reasons he sent men and women to their deaths in Iraq. Yuk. Yuk. Ugh!
But you guys excuse that disgusting display of insensitivity to our troops because your leader did it. If it had been a Democrat making a joke over WMDs, you'd have called for his head on a pike.
And then there's Bush's "just a comma" quote about Iraq:
BLITZER: Let’s move on and talk a little bit about Iraq. Because this is a huge, huge issue, as you know, for the American public, a lot of concern that perhaps they are on the verge of a civil war–if not already a civil war–We see these horrible bodies showing up, tortured, mutilation. The Shia and the Sunni, the Iranians apparently having a negative role. Of course, al Qaeda in Iraq is still operating.
BUSH: Yes, you see — you see it on TV, and that’s the power of an enemy that is willing to kill innocent people. But there’s also an unbelievable will and resiliency by the Iraqi people…. Admittedly, it seems like a decade ago. I like to tell people when the final history is written on Iraq, it will look like just a comma because there is — my point is, there’s a strong will for democracy.
There are now 2800 dead commas thanks to Bush and Rummy's incompetence.
You make a lot of noise over Kerry, but I hear nothing but *crickets* over the insulting and callous remarks about our soldiers that Bush has made.
But expecting consistency on these matters is like expecting a Republican politician to be honorable.
Ain't gonna happen.
See you guys next Tuesday.
JG
Oh boy, real meat for me Marie,
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Ha! For you too, I knew when you saw all this what you were going to say lol.
Macko usko, You're an uninformed liberal that is repeating a mantra that is just not true. The men and women in the armed services today are better educated and more highly trained than most liberals will ever hope to be by the end of their pointless lives.
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What JG Said. All of our fine Soldiers dieing litterally to protect us from certain death are more highly qualified and more educated than John Kerry (And quite a few in the Liberal Party could ever be.
George Bush is smarter than John Kerry.
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That's right as Uncle P pointed out earlier Bush did recieve higher grades than Kerry.
John Kerry has nothing but contempt for the men and women that serve the country in uniform. Liberals should not be running away from his statements but embracing his statements instead because you have expressed the same sentiments in your comments.
There was no joke involved here witrh John Kerry except that he was elected to office in the first place, the joke is on the people of Massachusetts but they're not laughing now.
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Not Just John Kerry, the ENTIRE DEMOCRAT PARTY has utter destain for our Military and Kerry proved it. There is NO MORE DOUBT how the Democrats feel about our Armed Forces, they feel they are "Stupid"
Can you actually believe this? I cant believe John Kerry would banti about and deliberately say this about our troops.
What I dont understand is why?
Mrs Green,
Holy Moly! Look at the firestorm here! I go away for a couple weeks and all hell breaks loose!
John Kerry did not insult the troops, no matter how you spin it.
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Kerry insulted the troops and thier intelligence and that's all there is to it, the whole Country knows it and his own party knows it and they cant run away from him fast enough.
Hell even the Troops in Iraq made a nice little poster just for Kerry.
Dont even try to spin this one Mrs Green. That was a shot right at our troops, and it was insulting, disgusting, and horrible.
But we see exactly how the left feels about our troops, if anyone ever had any doubt, they dont anymore.
One thing about about this whole falp about Kerry's des[icab;e words insulting the troops is that he has finished his chances of running for prseident. No one can recover from such dispicable display of arrogance and condecention.. Even Hillary what's her name is certain that Kerry meant what he said. The only difference between what Kerry said and what Hillary thinks is that Kerry said what Hillary is thinking.
But we see exactly how the left feels about our troops, if anyone ever had any doubt, they dont anymore.Marie's TC
Marie,
Here's an example of that fallacious logic:
Americans can see how the right feels about our children. Obviously they approve of pedophiles molesting underage pages. If anyone had any doubt, they don't anymore.
If you believe that what John Kerry or Hillary Clinton thinks or does is what EVERY person on the left thinks or does, then the same logic has to apply to you righties.
If the Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff is a felon and ex-Republican Congressman Mark Foley is a pedophile, then we must apply your logic and assume that all righties approve of felons and pedophiles.
If you and your fellow travelers don't understand this, I feel sorry for you. You build your own traps with your silly logic.
See you Tuesday! America will speak then.
Mrs Green,
Where have you been I have missed you so !@#$#@!?
Marie,
Here's an example of that fallacious logic:
Americans can see how the right feels about our children. Obviously they approve of pedophiles molesting underage pages. If anyone had any doubt, they don't anymore.
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Oh sure we can, for instance we know You Liberals eat your young.
And you guys have the market cornered in the pedophile/sex escapades dept. even though he had to die before any MSM picked up the story ol Gerry Studds D-MA actually HAD SEX WITH AN UNDERAGE MALE WHITE HOUSE PAGE, was Censured, re-elected, and served his term. And No Other heads rolled. (Which was appalling, considering every one in YOUR party wanted Denny Hastert's head on a platter) So dont get on your imaginary Moral High Horse just yet.
If you believe that what John Kerry or Hillary Clinton thinks or does is what EVERY person on the left thinks or does, then the same logic has to apply to you righties.
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I dont really care what kind of logic you think you can apply here but KERRY CAN KISS MY ASS! I am getting sick and damn tired of elected officials downgrading our Troops and this is the worst example I've ever seen. Screw Kerry.
If the Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff is a felon and ex-Republican Congressman Mark Foley is a pedophile, then we must apply your logic and assume that all righties approve of felons and pedophiles.
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I dont really care about Abramoff, Democrats that took money from him like Harry Reid and wont give it back will go down with everyone else when the time comes.
And back to Mark Foley again see above answer so I dont have to keep repeating myself, and dont even get me started on Barney Frank! Gerry Studds is gross enough.
If you and your fellow travelers don't understand this, I feel sorry for you. You build your own traps with your silly logic.
See you Tuesday! America will speak then.
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Mrs Green you need a reality check. You need to quit reading the Huffington Post and crap like that will melt your brain. And stay the hell away from Nutball with Chris Matthews, and Olberman, and all those left wing Lunatics. Your Mental Health depends on it.
Oh I'll be looking forward to Tuesday, but this time if you guys dont regain control of the House or the Senate, dont blame Diebold.
Because your party is trying the same crap again this election, registering dead people to vote, illegal aliens, convicted felons, stealing yard signs, I'm sure they will be out slashing Republican "Get out the vote" Van tires on election day before it's all over. After all that your party should win.
John Kerry did not insult the troops, no matter how you spin it.
The only ones spinning it, are John Kerry with 2 or 3 different versions of what he meant to say; and leftwingnuts like you who refuse to concede.
I believe he wasn't intentionally aiming a potshot at the troops; but he's so dense, he couldn't even mask his true feelings. Which is that, like Mack, there is a pervasive perception among many on the left, that soldiers must somehow be uneducated, and coming from impoverished backgrounds.
And here are a couple of links for Mack and the moonbats to check out:
myth and facts
Military enlistment 2003-5
Do you guys remember when Bush made his jokes about not finding the WMDs at the Radio and Television Correspondents' Association Dinner in March of 2004?
It is so amusing how many times I've seen this apples and oranges comparison made by moonbats on blogs and on talk radio. Do you guys all get your "original ideas" from the Huffington Post?
Keep harping on the Kerry Kerfluffle and ignore the Bush Disaster--yeah, that'll work:
Baghdad is under siege
By Patrick Cockburn in Arbil, Northern Iraq
Published: 01 November 2006
Sunni insurgents have cut the roads linking the city to the rest of Iraq. The country is being partitioned as militiamen fight bloody battles for control of towns and villages north and south of the capital.
As American and British political leaders argue over responsibility for the crisis in Iraq, the country has taken another lurch towards disintegration.
Well-armed Sunni tribes now largely surround Baghdad and are fighting Shia militias to complete the encirclement.
The Sunni insurgents seem to be following a plan to control all the approaches to Baghdad. They have long held the highway leading west to the Jordanian border and east into Diyala province. Now they seem to be systematically taking over routes leading north and south.
Dusty truck-stop and market towns such as Mahmoudiyah, Balad and Baquba all lie on important roads out of Baghdad. In each case Sunni fighters are driving out the Shia and tightening their grip on the capital. Shias may be in a strong position within Baghdad but they risk their lives when they take to the roads. Some 30 Shias were dragged off a bus yesterday after being stopped at a fake checkpoint south of Balad.
In some isolated neighbourhoods in Baghdad, food shortages are becoming severe. Shops are open for only a few hours a day. "People have been living off water melon and bread for the past few weeks," said one Iraqi from the capital. The city itself has broken up into a dozen or more hostile districts, the majority of which are controlled by the main Shia militia, the Mehdi Army.
The scale of killing is already as bad as Bosnia at the height of the Balkans conflict. An apocalyptic scenario could well emerge - with slaughter on a massive scale. As America prepares its exit strategy, the fear in Iraq is of a genocidal conflict between the Sunni minority and the Shias in which an entire society implodes. Individual atrocities often obscure the bigger picture where:
* upwards of 1,000 Iraqis are dying violently every week;"
This is why the American people are angry.
BTW: You guys must visit The Huffington Post quite a bit. You seem to know an awful lot about what gets posted there.
It's great for Arianna's traffic.
Thanks!
Mrs Green,
Sunni insurgents have cut the roads linking the city to the rest of Iraq. The country is being partitioned as militiamen fight bloody battles for control of towns and villages north and south of the capital.
As American and British political leaders argue over responsibility for the crisis in Iraq, the country has taken another lurch towards disintegration.
Well-armed Sunni tribes now largely surround Baghdad and are fighting Shia militias to complete the encirclement.
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Are you nuts? This must be another story you picked up from HuffPo.
I get DOD email and it doesnt say a word about this, and neither do any of the media channels and neither has anyone else!
My God woman, with OUR Military there you actually believe they are going to let that happen? Have some faith. I know you want our troops to lose in Iraq but it's impossible.
Dont be like John Kerry and give our troops less credit than they deserve.
BTW: You guys must visit The Huffington Post quite a bit. You seem to know an awful lot about what gets posted there.
It's great for Arianna's traffic.
Thanks!
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Are you kidding? I have been to HuffPo a few times, enough for me to know to stay the hell away from that place because it's filled with lies.
And with all the adware and spyware you pick up over there I dont like having my computer infected with that rubbish.
What are you some paid poster for Arianna?
Word,
The only ones spinning it, are John Kerry with 2 or 3 different versions of what he meant to say; and leftwingnuts like you who refuse to concede.
I believe he wasn't intentionally aiming a potshot at the troops; but he's so dense, he couldn't even mask his true feelings. Which is that, like Mack, there is a pervasive perception among many on the left, that soldiers must somehow be uneducated, and coming from impoverished backgrounds.
And here are a couple of links for Mack and the moonbats to check out:
myth and facts
Military enlistment 2003-5
Do you guys remember when Bush made his jokes about not finding the WMDs at the Radio and Television Correspondents' Association Dinner in March of 2004?
It is so amusing how many times I've seen this apples and oranges comparison made by moonbats on blogs and on talk radio. Do you guys all get your "original ideas" from the Huffington Post?
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You mean he was FOR Bashing our Troops before he was AGAINST it?
Are you nuts? This must be another story you picked up from HuffPo.
I get DOD email and it doesnt say a word about this, and neither do any of the media channels and neither has anyone else!
No. I did not get this from Huffington Post. I'll give you the link at the end of this post.
Sticking your head in the sand and believing that you get all the "facts" from the DoD will keep you in that famous river in Egypt.
You and your friends are so into the Bush cult that when facts are given your only response is--"since I haven't read this, it can't be true."
But as the old saying goes, you can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.
here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/yyp2b8
And when you say "I know you want our troops to lose in Iraq," you insult all Americans, not just me.
That's the most hateful, uninformed and useless remark I've read here in a long time. When all else fails, call those who disagree with you traitors or troop haters. Yeah. That's constructive. NOT.
That sort of rhetoric is the last refuge of a scoundrel and one who willfully stays ignorant of the overwhelming fact that Iraq has descended into chaos. Not because of our military men and women. No. Because of our stupid leaders.
Bush's intransigent and bumbling policies in Iraq have caused 2800+ men and women to die and thousands more life altering injuries--not me.
When are you guys gonna face up to that.
After the elections, Bush's Baker Commission will announce its recommendations to him on how to extricate this country from the debacle Bush witlessly put us in. Watch Bush find a way to spin our retreat based on Baker Commission recommendations.
Look to your president who is responsible for our troops' deaths and injuries, not me. I was against this dishonest and ill-planned war from the start.
Oooh! Oooh! Another "Anonymous". This is great.
Let's suppose that Senator Heinz really did botch a joke, and that he "misspoke". You may have heard it said, "Out of the fullness of the heart, the tongue speaks." (I know, it sounds like it's from the Bible, but it isn't.) The fact is, he's been making statements like this for at least 34 years that we know of. For instance, in 1972, when he was running for Congress, he wrote in response to a questionnaire presented by Massachusetts Political Action For Peace, "I am convinced a volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown. "We must not repeat the travesty of the inequities present during Vietnam. I also fear having a professional army that views the perpetuation of war crimes as simply 'doing its job.'
"Equally as important, a volunteer army with our present constitutional crisis takes accountability away from the president and put the people further from control over military activities."
It's entirely likely that he did "botch a joke". But in botching the joke, he swerved into telling us, again, how he really feels about the military, and it's no different from the way he's felt for years.
Oops. Almost forgot. The whole sordid tale lives here: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061102/D8L4QH580.html
Which, as the cognoscenti will note, is at the web site of al-Associated Press.
Not only do most honest thinking people believe Kerry meant to insult the troops anonymous but more importantly the troops understood his meaning and that's what really hurts.
Kewrry's actions and apologies afterwards cement the meaning of what he said.
Why is it that dems have to make it so much more difficult in winning this war because that is what you are doing. By being another obsticle that has to overcome you make it that much more difficult for our men and women fighting this war. Is that the intention of the democrats? Is their intention to delay, stall, conjure up reasons for us not to win so you can tell the American people "look Bush is doing a bad job" we can do better when nothing could be further from the truth.
The democrats have brought outsiders into Pennsylvania to run for congressional seats in districts these people used to refer to as flyover country. The cynical and reprehensible behavior of the democrats makes real Americans angry and we are going to come out and vote.
No, I don't believe the current crop of whining maggot democrats are the Americans I was taught to fight for, honor and respect.
Marie, this is the link to the story on my blog Small Man and Smalller than Originally thought
The link you placed on your post to my posts goes right to the comment section of one story and the way it is set up, the story is not seen, only the comments. Another thing I just discovered I have to go back in an change after beta disaster.
Mrs Green,
No. I did not get this from Huffington Post. I'll give you the link at the end of this post.
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You expect me to believe some little story somewhere that isnt all over the MSM (And if it were true, you know it would be) instead of the United States Military? Are you friggen serious?
And when you say "I know you want our troops to lose in Iraq," you insult all Americans, not just me.
That's the most hateful, uninformed and useless remark I've read here in a long time. When all else fails, call those who disagree with you traitors or troop haters. Yeah. That's constructive. NOT.
That sort of rhetoric is the last refuge of a scoundrel and one who willfully stays ignorant of the overwhelming fact that Iraq has descended into chaos. Not because of our military men and women. No. Because of our stupid leaders.
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It's true (Maybe not you personnely) but YOUR PARTY does NOT want to see this War on Terror with Iraq being the Central front of it through to the end. Or maybe they want you to believe they are going to pull out of Iraq, but that's probably not true either because they know if they do what a mess that would create and the Liberals would be held responsible for it!
Pull your head out of your a** or the sand or wherever you have stuck it and pay attention. This is NOT some sport, this election MATTERS to this ENTIRE Country. And if YOUR party does regain control, all of our measures to keep us safe will be GONE, so will the Economy, and Impeachment hearings that will NEVER come to pass will be implemented by YOUR party and tie this Country up for 2 friggen years and who on earth would be watching the Country for attacks while this goes on? It sure wont be the Democrats because they will have taken away all the tools to do so!!!
After the elections, Bush's Baker Commission will announce its recommendations to him on how to extricate this country from the debacle Bush witlessly put us in. Watch Bush find a way to spin our retreat based on Baker Commission recommendations.
Look to your president who is responsible for our troops' deaths and injuries, not me. I was against this dishonest and ill-planned war from the start.
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See that's why I say what I say. You lay the blame for everything at the President's feet. You see Iraq as a debockle, We see it as the Central Front in the War on Terror which you Liberals wont even admit we are in.
You know what the exit strategy is and you refuse to admit there is one. As the Iraqi Troops stand up we stand down, it's been that, it's alway's going to be that, and if you think members of your party (Should they win) will do it differently, think again!
YOUR party is promising to give you the world, and what are you going to do when they give you NONE of the things you asked for?
It will be to late to boot them out by then, they will be to busy trying to Impeach the President and will get NOTHING accomlished.
And KERRY CAN STILL KISS MY ASS!
JG,
Marie, this is the link to the story on my blog Small Man and Smalller than Originally thought
The link you placed on your post to my posts goes right to the comment section of one story and the way it is set up, the story is not seen, only the comments. Another thing I just discovered I have to go back in an change after beta disaster.
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Woops sorry, I will fix it shortly.
Yes stay away from that Beta crap.
See that's why I say what I say. You lay the blame for everything at the President's feet.
Of course! Who else is to blame? He's the CiC and any success or failure is his. It's called accountability and responsibility. And mature adults generally accept this. Who should we blame for what happens in Iraq? Hillary?
You see Iraq as a debockle,
Um, the generals on the ground now see it as "chaos." Chaos or debacle--same difference.
We see it as the Central Front in the War on Terror which you Liberals wont even admit we are in.
You know what the exit strategy is and you refuse to admit there is one. As the Iraqi Troops stand up we stand down,
The Bush administration has said that 300,000+ Iraqis security forces have been trained. Shouldn't they now stand up? And why haven't they? Now that there are 300,000+ Iraqi security forces trained, why didn't some of our troops "stand down?"
Mrs Green,
Of course! Who else is to blame? He's the CiC and any success or failure is his. It's called accountability and responsibility. And mature adults generally accept this. Who should we blame for what happens in Iraq? Hillary?
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How about blaming the ones who caused this whole damn thing? THE TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WANT? They (The Terrorists) Want us to argue and conspire against each other and bitch and hollar and carry on so THEY can be satisfied!!!! OUR LIVES ARE AT STAKE HERE AND YOU PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT A FRIGGEN WARRANT????
Um, the generals on the ground now see it as "chaos." Chaos or debacle--same difference.
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NAME TO ME WHAT WAR HASNT BEEN CHAOS! Are there mistakes made in every friggen war? Hell yeah! But do you on the left, you guys cannot possibly be that stupid to think the enemy isnt watching and laughing at the American's who at this point assume we cant get our shit together. And you on the left play right into thier hands. And dont tell me different because I know better.
The Bush administration has said that 300,000+ Iraqis security forces have been trained. Shouldn't they now stand up? And why haven't they? Now that there are 300,000+ Iraqi security forces trained, why didn't some of our troops "stand down?"
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Jesus Christ if you on the left cant figure this out by now I dont think there is any hope for you at all.
The Iraqi Army IS standing up, we are trying like hell to make them stand up. They are doing the best they can. Dont forget how de-moralized they have been thank's to Saddam, they are doing the best they can, Bush has made it clear they are soon to be ALL on thier own, and they have to take control of thier own security.
We have been standing down, for the love of god when this whole thing started we had 500,000 troops involved we now have 125,000. We have been drawing down, and they (The Iraqi's) have been picking up as best they can. But just for a minute examine the consequences, we are so close to having Iraq on thier own, and we pull out ahead of time before they can handle it, what the hell do YOU think will happen? You dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out. As if Iran isnt problem enough (And this all would have happened whether a Dem Or Rep would have been in office) Iran will make Iraq a terrorist playground and you and every other Liberal or Democrat knows this.
How many 9-11's is it going to take before you on the left realize we are at WAR with Islamic Fundamentalists, Radicals, Fascists, whatever you want to call them before you realize we are in World War 3?
There are people out there that dont give a rats ass about us, they just want us dead, DEAD!!!! ALL OF US!
I dont honestly believe you want a dirty bomb to go off in Pennsylvania, but left up to those who want to run this like a Police Action, and want to get a warrant before we find out who is setting off the dirty bomb will hold this whole damn thing up until Pennsylvania is demolished before we have a warrant, and then it will be to late.
I dont know how else to stress this to you that will make any sense besides being that blunt. But that is what we are dealing with, and we dont want the terrorists to win and I'm sure you dont want to be obliterated by the terrorists yourself! But that is exactly what we face, and you are either on board, or an idiot at this point.
And I have never taken you for an idiotic woman. Not yet at least!
Mrs Green...
The screeching and whining about Bush didn't do this or didn't do that has become completely unbearable to regular citizens wanting to bring this war to an end as quickly as possible but every time the democrats make it more difficult to win the war by creating unreasonable obstacles (1. hindrance: somebody or something that hinders or prevents progress).
I'll ask you the question, "Do you want the United States to win the War?"
As President Bush said some time ago "you are either with us or against us" it's time for you to choose.
This is awesome even the UK hates george:
LONDON - The United States is seen as a threat to world peace by its closest neighbors and allies, with Britons saying President Bush poses a greater danger than North Korea’s Kim Jong Il, a survey found Friday.
A majority of people quizzed in three out of four countries polled also rejected the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
Good luck tuesday you fascist bush whores
Is it just me or is Marie starting to sound a bit hysterical? I mean really just read her reply to Mrs. Green here at the bottom. Damn girl take your meds and chill for a second, you sound completely 'terrorized' which of course is what Bush is counting on.
Anon,
This is awesome even the UK hates george:
LONDON - The United States is seen as a threat to world peace by its closest neighbors and allies, with Britons saying President Bush poses a greater danger than North Korea’s Kim Jong Il, a survey found Friday.
A majority of people quizzed in three out of four countries polled also rejected the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
Good luck tuesday you fascist bush whores
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Oh WOW! More polls? And from another Country even LMAO!
You guys are to much LOL
Anon,
Is it just me or is Marie starting to sound a bit hysterical? I mean really just read her reply to Mrs. Green here at the bottom. Damn girl take your meds and chill for a second, you sound completely 'terrorized' which of course is what Bush is counting on.
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At least you could have picked up a name for yourself, or is that to much work?
Hysterical? I will always fight for what I believe in or tell someone what I think, you have a problem with that Spunky?
For me the tipping point was his "I apologize to no one" finger wag. Otherwise this would have been another dumbarse moment, like his ridiculous comment about killing the prez on Mahar's show.
But the best thing to come out of this was that banner--simply the best political commercial of the entire season!
I'll ask you the question, "Do you want the United States to win the War?"--j_g
j_g,
The US won the war when it marched into Baghdad and occupied Iraq. That is one measure of “winning” a war, the invading country occupies the enemy’s territory. The US did that.
What the Bush administration failed miserably to do was win the peace as well. There were no plans to follow up on the military victory that was certain for us in a militarily broken country.
Part IV (the pacification of Iraq) of the war plan for Iraq was never completed because Rumsfeld directed the military NOT to complete it. He stated that it was not needed, his plan was to remove Saddam and then get out. That was not the plan that the president and the neocons had. They wanted to build permanent military basis and have a long-term US military presence in Iraq. It was a dysfunctional plan from the beginning, which was exacerbated by replacing General Jay Garner as the pro consul with J. Paul Bremmer, who threw out all the plans that Garner had developed and made the monumental error of disbanding 300,000 Iraqi soldiers, who were left armed and unemployed. Thus began the insurgency.
Asking me or anyone the nonsensical question you did above is a way of avoiding the harder question: Did the US (BushCo.) plan for the execution of a cogent and successful occupation of a conquered country? The obvious answer is “The US did not.” That is why we’re still fighting an increasingly ferocious enemy while the country descends into chaos.
This is the truth if you have the honesty to look at what is really happening in Iraq and not get sucked up into the Cheney/Rumsfeld vortex of deceit and dishonesty.
The proof is right there in front of you. October was one of the bloodiest month in the three year war. 11 more soldiers have died, and it’s only Nov. 4. By this length of time in WWII, the war was winding down not escalating! And we were fighting on TWO fronts!—not occupying a third-world country! This war has made Iraq a magnet for jihadists—something it was not before we got there. It is a monumental disaster.
Watch for the editorial in the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Times on Monday. They will call for Rumsfeld’s resignation. Even they (our military families) understand that this ineffectual and failed Secretary of Defense must go.
Hey Marie! Some coward is posting under my "name," but he or she is so dumb that he or she used "Ms." Green instead of "Mrs." Green.
You are more than fair in allowing me to post on your blog. And I think you're a decent person (even if we disagree--you're a damn worthy opponent!)
I don't mind getting slammed by a worthy opponent, but why must people name steal? That's so childish.
Sheesh!
MRS. Green
Ooops! Okay. My big fat mistake. "Ms." Green is actually a real blogger with a blog spot whose name is Ms. Green.
I should have linked to her name before I shot my mouth off.
I apologize. I do NOT own the name GREEN.
So beat me with a wet noodle for jumping to conclusions.
Sorry.
And I wasn't able to post under my name in that last comment. Don't know why.
Guess the blogger gnomes were out to get me.
AC,
For me the tipping point was his "I apologize to no one" finger wag. Otherwise this would have been another dumbarse moment, like his ridiculous comment about killing the prez on Mahar's show.
But the best thing to come out of this was that banner--simply the best political commercial of the entire season!
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I didnt see Mahar. I bet the last one before the election was a real "Reach through the tv screen moment".
AC can you imagine putting up with that crap if he were our President?
I'm pretty sure he just blew his chances at the Presidency in '08, we wont have to go through that again.
I have utter distain for those that degrade our Troops, and he should have known better. Joke my ass.
Ha! Yeah the banner I see it every where I go. Fly it High and Proud!
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