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February 29, 2008

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The Democrat Congress Would Rather Find Out If Roger Clemens Is On Steroids Than Protect America

Sometimes I dont know what runs through the minds of the Democrat Congress. Is finding Roger Clemens on Steroids more important than Protecting America? Is investigating White House aides such as Harriet Miers and Josh Bolton for Contempt of Congress (So say the Democrats) more important than Protecting America?

When I read this story today I was aghast! And the first thought that came to my mind was what the hell is Congress doing? They want to investigate aides of President Bush for not following along with Congress endless subpeonas and investigations about absolute crap from years ago, while we are at war and the enemy is still out there and still want's to kill us all.

And they cant even pass a "Terrorist Surveillance Bill", which I think is alot more important than any of this nonsense. Here is a *snip* with a link at the bottom of this post for the rest of the story. I just find this whole mess incredible.

[House Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked the Justice Department on Thursday to open a grand jury investigation into whether President Bush's chief of staff and former counsel should be prosecuted for contempt of Congress.

Pelosi, D-Calif., demanded that the department pursue misdemeanor charges against former White House counsel Harriet Miers for refusing to testify to Congress about the firings of federal prosecutors in 2006 and against chief of staff Josh Bolten for failing to turn over White House documents related to the dismissals.

She gave Attorney General Michael Mukasey one week to respond and said refusal to take the matter to a grand jury will result in the House's filing a civil lawsuit against the Bush administration.

The White House branded the request as "truly contemptible." The Justice Department had no immediate comment. The top House Republican called it "a partisan political stunt" and "a complete waste of time," according to a spokesman.]

I agree, this is such a waste of taxpayer time and money. Let's protect AMERICA first and worry about all this nonsense later!

Story Here

Congress!! Pass The Terrorist Surveillance Bill, Al-Qaida Does'nt Take Vacations!!!

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Blogger Timothy said...

I like the way you labeled that "nitwits!" That about sums it up. And they wonder why their approval ratings are below that of skunks and scorpions.

February 29, 2008 1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another Dynamite blog from Marie

I've been saying the same thing all week.
And think about all that money going down the drain over this nonsense.

February 29, 2008 2:01 PM  
Blogger Gayle said...

It was very recently that Congress took a 12 day break. Twelve days! From what? They don't do anything when they're there so why in the world do they need to take breaks?

Good post, Marie. You go! Pelousi is a nitwit for sure!

February 29, 2008 2:19 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...



No foolin, this Democrat Congress is useless. I cant imagine Steroids in Baseball or The study of the mating habit's of the Porcupine Caribou to be of more importance than our National Security!


It get's me too. This is such nonsense, when is America going to wake up and see how dangerous Democrats can really be?


What does Congress do besides continue to go after Bush and refuse to fund the Troops? I'm sayin'

Bush has what 10 months left in office and they continue this crap?

It's like they dont seem to care if we get attacked again. How can they call themseves Americans?

February 29, 2008 2:39 PM  
Anonymous Catherine Morgan said...

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February 29, 2008 3:55 PM  
Blogger Daniel Ruwe said...

I don't see how investigating baseball players is a federal issue. I guess it's not like there's a war going on or anything.

February 29, 2008 6:26 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

The democrack led Congress isn't much on talking about the war nowadays. They have been totally beat up because their retreat and defeat stance just hasn't quite worked out the way they planned for them. They have done their level best to humiliate America and our military but it appears they have failed with that plan and are now looking for ways to retreat from that bad strategy. After General Patreaus made the Congressional democrack leadership look like the total morons that most democracks are it's a no wonder they want to talk about Baseball instead. Steeee-rike three, your out!!

February 29, 2008 11:36 PM  
Anonymous cutiepie said...

You have a wonderful blog Marie.
And I must say that I doagree with you all the way.
Keep punching away.

March 01, 2008 8:35 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

The FBI and the Justice Department are now in charge of the investigation.

As for wiretapping, I guess I'm confused by all of your comments.

Are you all saying that until Congress passes the Protect America Act in the form Bush wants, that there is NO wiretapping going on as we speak?

That not one phone call can be wiretapped until this bill passes?
Is that what you're all saying?

To use your rhetoric when it's acceptable to wiretap domestic phone calls and e-mails..."If you don't have anything to hide, what's the worry?" If telecom companies did nothing wrong or illegal, what's the worry? Why the need for retroactive immunity?

March 01, 2008 10:04 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Where was the outrage when the same hearings were going on in March of 2005? When the soldier death toll was 35 that month?

Oh...sorry. Silly me. I forgot. That's when the Republicans controlled both houses.

March 01, 2008 10:09 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Thank You,

I'll be over to see what all this is about soon :-)


No Foolin you said it all.


I can alway's count on you to tell it precisely like it is. I like that Seeerike 3 haha


Thank You,

Stop by anytime :-)


You arent confused, you know exactly what is up.

Check the post below for the answers.

March 01, 2008 12:06 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Just looking for an answer to the question: do you think that there is no wiretapping operation in place as we speak?

March 01, 2008 1:35 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Just looking for an answer to the question: do you think that there is no wiretapping operation in place as we speak?

Sure there is, in AMERICA! But until Congress get's up off thier ass and passes this bill we cant wiretap OVERSEAS TO AMERICA phone calls or Vise Versa!

Thus leaving us vulnerable.

What is it about all this you do not understand?

March 01, 2008 1:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What? Did you just make that up? I'll tell you Marie, you change your story faster than Alberto Gonzales! But more than likely you'll reference a soldier-friend in Iraq who has the "inside scoop".



Your blog seems to have information on it that is either, 1.) completely false, or 2) more accurate than the information that EVERYONE else in the world has, including every government agency and every news source on the planet.

I'm going with #1.

Nothing is preventing anyone from wiretapping an electronic communication when there is a party "reasonably believed to be outside of the United States." In fact, the Bush regime even admitted that it wiretaps on ordinary Americans.

The ONLY difference is the paper trail issue, the need for a warrant. This warrant Marie, can even be obtained AFTER the communication has been monitored. The 4th Amendment of the Bill of Rights is powerful. You should research all of the amendments in the Bill of Rights. But I know, the Constitution is boring and as Bush said, it's "just a god-damned piece of paper." Nonetheless, it is what our country is founded on---much to the dismay of Republicans---rather than on the deck of a battleship.

But you simply cannot have unchecked power. That is what happened to Germany in 1934-1936.

Your claim is unequivocally false on all levels. There is no threat.
Now, if you want to get emotional and FEEL threatened, great. But the fact is we are neither safer nor less safe than we were without the extension of the Protect America Act. Sorry, but reality and facts win...again.

And no response to when Congress did the same investigation on steroids back in March of 2005? Why not???


March 01, 2008 3:37 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

...Your claim is unequivocally false on all levels. There is no threat.
Now, if you want to get emotional and FEEL threatened, great. But the fact is we are neither safer nor less safe than we were without the extension of the Protect America Act. Sorry, but reality and facts win...again.

Since when does the left use the facts and no emotional responses. I see no facts that you have supposedly presented. I see only an undue lack of knowledge of the telecommunications systems as they exist today in the aforementioned comment.

I have explained to the unresponsive unintelligent commenter before about pass through and tapping the person not the communication device as it is set up without the reauthorization. But as it always is with the left, damned the facts and knowledge about the subject which is being discussed and full speed ahead with attacks based on emotion and hatred for anything that is not clearly understood. Putz is a word that comes to mind when dealing with such imbecility.

March 01, 2008 4:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There is no threat", eh, Federalist? You sound like one of Prof. Ali (Be Nice to the Taliban) Khan's students at Washburn Law.

March 01, 2008 7:18 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Uncle Pavian,

I used the term "threat" in the context that this bill not passing is not a "threat" in the sense that we are unable to wiretap. We are able, just as before.
Is al-Qaeda a threat? Of course it is. Remember, they are responsible for 9/11. I know, I know...they weren't in Iraq before we invaded but hey, Bush was "The Decider". Guess you and I didn't have much say in that. I'm just as passionate about catching al-Qaeda as you are Uncle Pavian. Try getting Bush and Cheney to go along with us, that's the tough one!


Can you post the link where your super-secret, ninja-insider information on "pass throughs" and "devise and person" is listed? This is the first I've heard of this information AS IT IS TIED TO THIS BILL PASSING, right? Because, that is the topic, right?

Now, if you're going to discuss items that are not related to this bill...well, I would expect that from you so go ahead and spin away!

Wait a second! I get it! Rush and Hannity gave you these talking points but...once again...they didn't give you the sources and now, as is the case all too frequently, you're left to defend THEIR talking points with no factual ammunition. Damn them! What do they think you guys are? Lemmings? What do they think you guys do all day? Forward talking points from their shows and the General Giap....letter...oh, never mind.

I'm still waiting for someone to post the link that states this claim:


I'll be waiting...ZZZZzzzzz

March 01, 2008 9:15 PM  
Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

The Democrat Congress Would Rather Find Out If Roger Clemens Is On Steroids Than Protect America ..sooooooooo true Marie!

March 01, 2008 9:58 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

Currently terrorists are able to bypass effective electronic surveillance techniques that go far beyond Maxwell Smart's shoe phone. I guess the Federalist guy never heard of or used a disposable cell phone, calling card, email or realized that when Iman al Zwahiri calls for a manicure in Tibet that call is routed through the United States.

Without the Authorization as passed by the majority of the US Senate just recently the agencies in charge of this surveillance are unable to legally tap or monitor these devices in the manner and time that is needed because FISA isn't up to the task.

The bill also affords protections for communication companies from lawsuits from greedy ACLU type lawyers looking for another source of income besides protecting the rights of child molesters and child pornographers.

It sets up a Congressional subcommittee to oversee the surveillance and affords the president surveillance permissions for up to 45 days at time something FISA does not address.

So federalist guy, get up off the ground, clean off your bloody nose and stop sounding like you just graduated kindergarten. You have to move into the 21st century for goodness sakes.

Now go call your representative to remind him/her of the importance of reauthorizing the Terrorist Surveillance act because it's the right thing to do to protect the nation from extremist Islamic terrorism.

March 01, 2008 10:43 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Where is the link?

March 02, 2008 7:42 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

And I'll use your rhetoric when referring to the telecom companies...

"If they have nothing to hide or have done nothing illegal, why worry?"


You're so cute when you try to slam people with your tired, empty one-liners.

I detect some resentment about not having had the opportunity to further your education. What a pity, as I have always been of the belief that education should be free.

You attempt to belittle those who demonstrate a stronger intellect than you currently possess. That's understandable as no one truly enjoys feeling inferior.

I warmly encourage you to enjoy the last days of the regime, the celebration and worship of war and the sinister attempt at hijacking the Constitution.

In the end, truth always prevails.

March 02, 2008 7:54 AM  
Blogger Wild Phil said...

Hi Marie,

Great post my friend, and your so right on this typical liberal bullocks, just proves that the liberals are weak on National Defense and any more Libtards like "The Federalist" and we will all perish. Keep up the great work that you do so well Marie.

True Democracy: Two foxes and one chicken voting on what's for lunch.

Home Defense

March 02, 2008 8:08 AM  
Blogger Wild Phil said...

The Federalist,

What you have proven by all your so called lame education is that the schools today that teach that liberal claptrap have not made you more intelligent but made you more ignorant.

Nice try though, But J_G just made you look very small and your so ignorant that you can't even tell that.

March 02, 2008 8:12 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Wild Phil,

The days of "shoot first, don't ask questions later" and "yee-haw" as a foreign policy are over.

But if your country music collection tells you differently then there is no chance for debate.

Claptrap? Can you define that please?

March 02, 2008 8:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, that threat. Sorry. I misunderstood.
Usually, when people say things like "There is no threat" in the context of a discussion about what to do to keep the terrorists from blowing up Americans, what they have in mind is something like, "America is the greatest threat to world peace, and if we weren't so mean to the terrorists they wouldn't be trying to kill us."
It was my mistake, but I think you can see how easy it is to get confused.

March 02, 2008 10:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, the real problem is what happens after the next terrorist attack, when people realize that the government hasn't been able to use the powers it has now to protect the country. There is going to be enormous pressure to do something, and that is going to result in real, not imaginary curtailments of freedom. People being rounded up, domestic spying on a scale undreamed of since the days of J. Edgar Hoover, just to solve the problem.
None of the current Presidential candidates strikes me as the kind of person who would resist people demanding that he (or she, whichever) save the country by becoming a dictator.
When that happens, I plan to grow cabbages and start drinking heavily.

March 02, 2008 10:16 AM  
Blogger J_G said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

March 02, 2008 1:05 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

The energizer liberal still doesn't get it. I suppose he never will. I admit there are people that have a higher intellect than I. Given the comments you have excreted here at my dear friend Marie's blog it obvious that you are certainly not one that can claim a superior intellect only a inclination to exhibit your indoctrination training.

March 02, 2008 1:07 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

Sorry for the deleted comment Marie, I hit the publish button again before I got the last word in, literally.

March 02, 2008 1:14 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...


It appears certain that you feel your comments are coherent and ripe with clarity. Sadly, I cannot divorce my intellect in such a manner that it would enable me to comprehend your posts.

I have asked for a factual link to support the theories and information you posit regarding the FISA law and the current wiretapping program that is in place. You choose not to provide any.

I have difficulty believing that you "cut and run" so swiftly. However, if that is your strategy, then I'm sure there is solid logic behind that decision. I support you either way.

March 02, 2008 3:45 PM  
Anonymous Kyle said...

The fourth amendment applies to terrorists about as strongly as the first amendment applies to people yelling FIRE in a crowded theater.

Further, digital communications flying around the world over international servers can hardly be classified as "private." It's not like they're busting into your house and confiscating your property. In fact, unless you're a terrorist being hauled off to Gitmo, you'll never even know they examined your communications. How can you possibly claim there was an overstepping of your rights if you don't even KNOW whether or not you've been affected?

You can't. It's in the public domain.

March 02, 2008 4:17 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

A cell phone call is in the public domain?'re able to listen to my cell phone calls? Wow, this is more problematic than I thought.

And e-mails are public domain? If that's the case, where did Cheney's e-mails go and why are they not public domain since he works for both you and I?

If my e-mails are monitored for national security then so should his.

The original FISA law is based on the premise that "one or more parties is reasonably outside the United States." Originally Bush admitted that they had wiretapped individuals with no paper trail (i.e. warrant). Since that admission the administration has admitted to wiretapping calls in which BOTH parties were knowingly in the United States.

When this happens, the LOGICAL conclusion that one can make is that we have no checks or balances that would ensure that wiretapping is limited to the FISA bill (Watergate).

Now, I'm all for catching terrorists. The difference, I guess, boils down to shredding the Constitution to do it. The Constitution to me is the Alamo. I would do anything to defend it. I don't believe that there will ever be a situation that discarding the Constitution would be justified. I believe our forefathers would tell us today, "Find another way to beat them." It's just TOO EASY to give in and say, "Well, if you ain't got nuttin to hide what the hell ya worried about?"

If one person is tortured or illegally searched or detained, then that is a strike against America, what She stands for and for the Constitution which stands above us all.

I just know that we are better than that. I know we can win this thing without sacrificing what our forefathers gave to create this type of democracy.

You can be patriotic and still question your government. That is what they intended for us to always maintain. We are not subjects to a king or a dictator. So we should stop acting like it.

As for the Bill of Rights, it is borne out of the desire for all persons on the planet to be treated with dignity and respect and to be afforded the due process of law. Why? Because those who came here originally were denied it. They made a commitment that those atrocities would never be repeated. That religious persecution, torture, injustice and illegal searches would be nothing but a black mark on history.

It really is too bad that post- 9/11 has divided this country between two very different perspectives, similar to those of the late 18th century: one believed in freedom and one believed in empire at all costs.

March 02, 2008 5:10 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

There' always going to be the few that misinterpret the Constitution as a living document and forget the original intent as Mein Federalist has.

Don't flatter yourself federalist guy your an easy one to toy with because of your superiority complex. It's actually pretty funny to the rest of us here to watch you repeat almost verbatim the words from huffypo blog. Get an original thought for once. Marie and the rest of us have been through all this before with much better than you. I guess we're a little bored to even be discussing such matters with someone of your calibre. Shouldn't you be over at huffypo or daily kos drinking some kool aide?

March 02, 2008 8:06 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Oh dearest J_G,

That's the best compliment you could have ever given! To know that to this day I've never visited either site and yet deliver such brilliance must mean...uh oh...that the material is all mine! Doesn't that just tear at your insides J_G, to know that I have no need for anyone or any publication to provide me with talking points? But Hannity and Rush are your lifeline, for without them you are like a Titanic passenger without a lifeboat, floating aimlessly in the arctic waters.

You see, that's what a liberal education will do for you. It furnishes one with a critical thinking skill set that allows for quick analysis and deconstruction of text in order to formulate solid arguments based on a series of truths. (Wordsmith can assist you with further explanation)

If there is someone drinking kool-aid it is you, like a frat boy doing a beer bong at a Saturday night party.

The Constitution is not a living document?!!! So it has been replaced? Once again, you and Marie are fantastic originators of false information (if you're backed into a corner, just make something up and come roaring out!)
Just when it would appear you've hit rock bottom J_G, you insist on digging further. But for the grace of God there go I...

And this is coming from someone who cannot simply provide facts and/or a link?

To say that you are dangerously ignorant would be a gross understatement. Your dogmatism and your personal insults are your only arsenal and to this point they have served you well. When anyone opposes you, you simply attempt to shout them down electronically. Then the cavalry rides in and provides support by spitting venomous insults in an effort to quell the dissenter. All the while no one is delivering any truth or facts...just acronyms from the military and comments like, "I've got a neighbor who has a brother whose son is in the military and he says his son found the WMD' they do exist. He just can't talk about it for like 5 or 6 years, but you'll hear about it someday!"

Those tactics work with children, who can be intimidated easily, but render useless in the presence of adults.

I recommend a simple American History course at your nearby community college.
I am quite certain there are no requirements for admission other than payment of tuition.

March 02, 2008 8:40 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Oh Holy Cow!

What happened here?

March 03, 2008 8:11 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Once in a while I can pick up my cordless phone and hear my neighbor talking to someone.

So I suppose Cell Phone calls must be in the Public Domain.

I just never tell her about it lol

I think that falls under 3rd party lines and all that stuff.

March 03, 2008 8:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh Holy Cow!

What happened here?

See what happens when you miss a story conference, Marie?

March 03, 2008 8:06 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

I'm not concerned about your liberal education federalist guy it only shows you did not learn a thing when you there.

I listen to Rush Limbaugh on occasion but he says what I'm already thinking. Unlike your much repeated and useless screeds into something you are completely uneducated in and that's history. I saw your ignorant staement on Marie's last post that you believed the US Constittuion protects every human being. I think maybe you might need to get your tuition money back because you either didn't learn a thing or you weren't taught what you needed to learn and that is pretty obvious to anyone like me that actually does have knowledge about the Constitution. Gosh are you always this easy?

March 03, 2008 10:10 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

Ah federalist guy, I didn't mean for you to lose your miniature brain. It's not your fault. Your indoctrination level leaves you no other way to respond. I bet it would be even easier to dispute you illogical tripe in person. I think we'd all enjoy seeing your pea sized brain overload. Geez you lefties get so excited when your tunnel vision of the world is challenged. It's sad so you go on and have a nice day anyway.

March 03, 2008 11:31 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Not the entire U.S. Constitution, just the Bill of Rights, which in fact, does protect all citizens---resident or foreign.

Your replies are so incredibly adolescent and clearly lack maturity and depth. But that is no surprise. By not addressing the "8-year old schoolyard taunts" will allow them to reflect their author and her prepubescent behavior in the truest sense. There is nothing I could add to those remarks to make them any more transparent or authentic.

There are tissues on your coffee table...

March 04, 2008 4:56 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Uncle P,

Jumps up and down waving

I'm down here! lol

Yes I see that can happen

March 04, 2008 8:16 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


There are tissues on your coffee table...

It seems Jenn needs to hand you a few tissues, you are going to need them lol

March 04, 2008 9:52 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

LOL...I doubt it Marie.

Only abused children and abused animals make me cry.

To have a dialogue with J_G is akin to playing Wiffle Ball with my 7-year old nieces and nephews: I lob them easy ones to make them feel good, knowing I can strike them out if I choose to be cruel.

But shame on me for using my intellect as a weapon...

March 04, 2008 10:51 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I would still keep it handy for November :-)

March 04, 2008 11:27 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said... really think so? When you're getting outnumbered at the primary polls by an average of 3 to 1?

If voters between 18-23 come out in strong numbers, as it has been indicated thus far, McCain has about as much chance of winning as Dick Cheney does as Nobel Peace Prize winner.

You never did comment on why there was no outrage back in March of 2005 when the GIGANTIC steroids investigation was going on in the REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED HOUSE AND SENATE???? And that was when some people still thought Iraq was behind 9/11? LOL...

But I understand you Marie, no one likes to admit their party is at fault. Long live the double-standard and hypocrisy!

Question: how are they spinning McCain's flip-flopping on Bush's tax cuts? He was only 1 of 2 Republicans to oppose them TWICE, quoting, "how can you do this during a time of war?" and now he is for them permanently?? (confusion)

If there are more attacks on McCain by a liberal enemy like the NY Times or the U.S. Constitution, you can bet you'll all circle the wagons around him. Rove will come up with something.

McCain is better off picking someone as his VP candidate that is critical of the war.

Santorum or Graham would be unwise. The political move to combat the left is simple: admit that this was a mistake BUT we're there and we need to focus on how to win it, stabilize Iraq and get out. That is what MOST people want, on either side of the aisle. The candidate who can do that will walk away with it. to engage Pakistan and go after know, the original group who struck on 9/11.

March 04, 2008 11:45 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I'm not worried about the Primary,

I mean by November McCain will have whooped both of them with his experience.

March 04, 2008 12:14 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Economic experience? He said he doesn't know anything about the economy.

March 04, 2008 3:07 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Economic experience? He said he doesn't know anything about the economy.

Oh Please!

Being in Congress for 100 years and he does'nt know anything about the economy?

He was pulling someone's leg when he said that lol

I mean he will beat Hillary and Obama combined with his experience in ALL areas!

March 04, 2008 3:25 PM  

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