Who Say's We Cant Say Barack HUSSEIN Obama?
Who Said Obama's Middle Name Is Off Limits? If he is going to be the next President Of the United States Of AMERICA!!, Then why cant we know EVERYTHING about the man??????
Barack Hussein Obama In Turbin And Traditional Somali "Dress"
If Michelle Obama say's she's never been so Proud to be an American as she is now that her husband is winning, can we not ask why she was'nt proud enough to be an American when Martin Luther King marched in the 60's? Was she not proud to be an American when Rosa Parks refused to sit in the back of the bus? Was Michelle Obama Not Proud to be an American when Thurgood Marshall became the first black Supreme Court Justice of the United States of America? Is Michelle Obama only Proud to be an American since her husband Barack Hussein Obama is leading the Democrat Nomination?
Why are these people all of the sudden off limit's just because they are black? I want to know what my next President believes in or does'nt! I want to know where my next President is coming from, what his stands are, why is he for what he's for? And what exactly are his plans besides change? Change to what? He doesnt explain it. I would just like to know!
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If Michelle Obama say's she's never been so Proud to be an American as she is now that her husband is winning, can we not ask why she was'nt proud enough to be an American when Martin Luther King marched in the 60's? Was she not proud to be an American when Rosa Parks refused to sit in the back of the bus? Was Michelle Obama Not Proud to be an American when Thurgood Marshall became the first black Supreme Court Justice of the United States of America? Is Michelle Obama only Proud to be an American since her husband Barack Hussein Obama is leading the Democrat Nomination?
Why are these people all of the sudden off limit's just because they are black? I want to know what my next President believes in or does'nt! I want to know where my next President is coming from, what his stands are, why is he for what he's for? And what exactly are his plans besides change? Change to what? He doesnt explain it. I would just like to know!
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posted by Marie's Two Cents | 12:01 AM
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I don't understand the flap about McCain's warm-up guy saying 'Barack HUSSEIN Obama'. That's the guy's name. Would be any better or worse if we were to say 'John SIDNEY McCain'?
The black objection is bogus. Obama is not 1/2 Black. He's 1/3 African, 1/2 Arab and whatever remains is all vanila. So what?
Obama's a danderous man because of his POLICIES! His racial heritage has nothing to do with anything. McCain's a dangerous man because of his POLICIES! His white bread heritage has nothing to do with anything.
Hillary is just annoying.
As always, it helps when you report facts. That's not what Michelle Obama said. But if that helps with your argument/post, then go with it.
Just use whatever fits...
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Sorry Indigo red, But Hillary is not "Just" annoying.
She is annoying AND dangerous.
Just as dangerous as Obama is, and maybe even more so.
DD2 - When Hillary was a viable candidate, she was annoying and dangerous. She is no longer a viable candidate, so is now only annoying.
A messianic figure such as Obama has cultured and poses is always the greater danger. He heals the faint with bottles of water, blinds the seeing, deafens the hearing, and clouds the enlightened. And he calls this 'change'. It is what demogogues and false prophets have done for centuries.
Indigo,
Great post! Like evangelists and fear-mongerers who continue to tell people they're protecting us from those "who hate us for our freedoms"...
The guys middle name IS Hussein and that is that. The ramifications of that name are not McCains fault.
Obama also spurs on the matter with his references to talking to bin Laden and other Islamo Facists because he has a Muslim back ground.
In McCains middle name was Adolph do you think that Hillary/Obama would not use that to their advantage ? They would jump in it in a heat beat.
If he can't take the heat get off the fire!
BTW found a chilling video that I posted that reveals Obamas plan for us militarily. It will sedn chills down your spine!
BTW...
Rosa Parks refused to sit in the back of the bus in 1955, which preceded the birth of Michelle Obama by a mere 9 years.
Martin Luther King, JR. was assassinated in April of 1968, which a 3 1/2 year old Michelle Obama would have not only comprehended the immensity of that tragedy but surely the amazing accomplishments of the legendary civil rights activist.
How about these brilliant statements? Not a lot of outrage on these...
1. "The Constitution is just a god-damned piece of paper."
2. "I like to tell people when the final history is written on Iraq, it will look like just a comma because there is — my point is, there’s a strong will for democracy."
3. MS. MORNIN: That's good, because I work three jobs and I feel like I contribute.
THE PRESIDENT: You work three jobs?
MS. MORNIN: Three jobs, yes.
THE PRESIDENT: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that. (Applause.) Get any sleep? (Laughter.)
Oh...fun for everyone.
I have to laugh at the "Empty Vessel" image of Senator Obama at the top of Marie's blog.
I remember those EXACT words being used for President Reagan by the Democrats for 8 years!!!!
It didn't hurt him one iota. Not one. People loved him and voted for the "empty vessel."
"The more things change, the more they remain the same."
Sigh.
Joanne
PS. Senator Obama has more experience than did Abraham Lincoln when he ran for president.
Elected as a Whig to the Thirtieth Congress (March 4, 1847-March 3, 1849); did not seek a renomination in 1848; an unsuccessful applicant for Commissioner of the General Land Office under President Taylor; tendered the Governorship of Oregon Territory, but declined; unsuccessful Whig candidate for election to the United States Senate before the legislature of 1855; unsuccessful Republican candidate for the United States Senate in 1858; elected as a Republican President of the United States in 1860.
Obama was an Illinois state legislator for 7 years and has been a US Senator since 2004.
Another Republican president, Richard M. Nixon, had one of the most impressive records for experience of any candidate for president. He resigned in disgrace.
Some men grow in stature in office, others diminish.
It is my belief that Senator has what John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan had, the ability to inspire Americans to be the best they can be.
There were many Democrats for Reagan when he ran for the presidency. And now, among my Republican acquaintences, I'm hearing how they admire Senator Obama, and will probably vote for him.
Joanne
Yeah, well, Anonymous aka Joan, I have a video where wonderful Obama tells us exactly how he's going to turn us into a third world country.
In addition, any Republican voting for Obama will do so for one of two reasons. Either they aren't really Republicans or they don't understand what Obama stands for. How could they? He rarely says what he stands for in these debates.
I'm just saying that we should have the opportunity to know everything about the Obama's.
Granted Michelle isnt old enough to remember most of those event's or was'nt born yet she still could have been PROUD to be an American at some point in her life knowing all the accomplishment's the Civil Right's movement made. Not just because her husband is winning!
And if Obama isnt affraid or has nothing to hide I dont see the harm in using his middle name, or showing a picture of him in his native heritage dress.
The Liberal agenda in and of itself is dangerous. No matter which one is pushing it.
And as for fear? We are at WAR! And those same people that attacked us are still trying to kill us, it's not just fear, it's REAL!
And some of us that have witnessed this crap since it's inception in the 60's and 70's are sick to death of attacks, hostage takings, embassy's attacked, Military instalations attacked, threats, and these Idiots coming back to our shores and finishing us off which is what they have stated over and over that is thier intended purpose is to see America GONE! If you dont believe they are still out there wanting to kill us, you are blind as a friggen bat.
As far as I can tell so far, Obama talks a good game and that's it. I havent heard any viable plans from him.
He seems incompetant, without knowledge of what's really at stake in this country, flat out dangerous and not fit to command our Armed Forces as President during a time of war.
I have seen no proof that he is. But hey I'm keeping all my options open this election season and I havent seen any substance out of Hillary OR Obama.
Just digging into these people further that's all.
BTW Gayle and Ken,
I am going to cross-post that Video soon if you dont mind.
Hiya Marie!..coming from a dude who refuses to wear an American flag pin on his freakin lapel!..spit!
Attention all Americans: wearing a lapel pin of the American flag now makes you patriotic. Who knew it would be that simple?
Marie,
Obama's native dress? I've been to Hawaii and while in Honolulu I did not see anyone dressed like that. Because, you do know that Obama was born in Hawaii, right? I mean, I would hate to see you publish ANOTHER completely false post with all sorts of twisted quotes and inaccurate information.
Obama was doing the same thing Bush did while in China...perhaps Bush was born in China and was wearing his "native dress"?
The media continues to publish stories that are not newsworthy.
Example: "Cheney's subpoenaed e-mails missing"
That's like saying: "Humans breathe oxygen...again!"
Score another one for corruption!
Michelle Obama's quote: "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change..."
She was referring to how many people are involved in the primary and caucus elections. This year has shown record turnout and not since the 60's have young people been so interested and aware of what is going on.
But hey, who needs facts when you have "truthiness"?
Angel,
I agree, he did that on purpose!
That show's what a Patriot he is 'eh?
Obama not covering his chest with his hand while the pledge is being played?
It sure makes him look defiant about American Heritage if nothing else!
Federalist,
Obama's native dress? I've been to Hawaii and while in Honolulu I did not see anyone dressed like that. Because, you do know that Obama was born in Hawaii, right? I mean, I would hate to see you publish ANOTHER completely false post with all sorts of twisted quotes and inaccurate information.
Obama was doing the same thing Bush did while in China...perhaps Bush was born in China and was wearing his "native dress"?
Federalist,
He may have been born in Hawaii, but he was in Somalia when the picture was taken with a MUSLIM?/ SOMALI Elder? Who cares if he was in Native Dress? I am saying it shouldnt mean anything if he has nothing to hide!
False Post?
If Obama has nothing to hide or be ashamed of he should say, "So What"?
And I didnt see Bush running around in "Dress" while he was in Tanzania, Kenya, or any of the other African places he just visited. But I'm sure he would have, had it been called for! HE is the President remember?
God you are Naive Fed!
And Cheney? PLEASE!!
Once again the Liberal's try to score one on Cheney and once again they are defeated for lack of intelligence on the issue. Corruption , NO! You guy's are so pissed that Bush and Cheney never broke the law to begin with and the Liberal Senate and House cant even begin to try him or Cheney for ANYTHING that you would LOVE to make up something for the Liberals to sink thier teeth into, but it just isnt there!!
And speaking of Cheney,
All Cheney ever did before he was EVER Nominateed to be Bush's VP was invest in and partially Control Halliburton shares in the company. That was after he was Defense Secretary and Cheif of Staff in the White House of course, that's called EXPERIENCE!
Can you tell me in the reconstruction of Iraq and Louisiana who was more qualified besides Kellog Brown and Root, A/K/A KBR, Halliburton, and Blackwater? If there was anyone more qualified in the rebuilding, I sure would love to know who it was? I mean name a company that could have handled such an effort! Besides them. Or can you?
Michelle Obama's quote: "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change..."
You see? There we go!
Hope for who? Change to What?
They are NEVER Specific, and Bush isnt on the Ticket this time, so anybody but Bush doesnt work this time.
What kind of change? A change to our Military being incapassitated? Back to a Police Action for all terrorist attacks?
Hope that we dont get attacked again instead of making sure we dont?
You really think the American People are going to go for that?
But then again hey, who needs the truth?
Maybe enlightening the Liberals?
Oh no Marie you have it all wrong the federalist guy isn't naive, he's brainwashed and blind.
Michelle Obama meant exactly what she said. She has never been proud of America in her adult life. When she was in college she said she had to gather with other blacks to fight off the white oppressors or was that professors? Last time I checked Micelle went to Princeton University and I'm sure in 1983 they were having Klan gathers in the auditoriums and coffe houses around the campus. A mind was a terrible thing to wash.
If Barack Hussein Obama was named Bob Harold O'Malley and was white, the press would have treated him like they did Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul. Barack Hussein Obama has little experience, fringe ideas and speaks to his mindnumb robot followers with absolutely no substance because the last thing he wants his mindless followers to know is how much he is going to cost them.
Joanne, I don't know a single person whether they be democrat or republican that thinks Obama would be a good president. I work with blacks, hispanics, whites and other females. They are lining up and chomping at the bit to go and vote for the Clintons. These are all working class democrats that are seeing through the veneer of Obama. Of course the Republicans I work with are having a hard time being shut out of the process and are considering their two options, not voting or voting for someone that is totally objectional in John McCain. Even among the union people they are tearing their hair out with the two choices they have.
Marie sais: Two Cents said...
I'm just saying that we should have the opportunity to know everything about the Obama's
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I think we already do, and what we know so far, is not that positive!
Photos of George Walker Bush wearing traditional Arab clothing as well as Hillary and Chelsea Clinton wearing head covering while visiting Queen Noor:
http://tinyurl.com/2tzxj3
And Laura Bush covering her head in deference to the Arab religious tradition (Nancy Pelosi did the same and the Right went ballistic--heh!):
http://tinyurl.com/2uyhxl
No there's nothing wrong with the photo of Obama wearing traditional African garb. All politicians do that, as President Bush's photos illustrate.
The point is that when Bush wore his Arab friends' costumes, the photo of it wasn't (as far as I know) published in the Drudge Report, intimating that Bush was a terrorist--Obama's was. Why?
Jennifer,
I don't doubt what you say about your Democratic friends not wanting to vote for Obama. My own sister is not supporting him. (She's supporting Hillary.) But I actually have several life-long Republican friends (who are wonderful, caring people) who will not vote for McCain should he run against Obama. Of course, our experiences on this matter are anecdotal and do not reflect what's going on nationwide.
Joanne
Joanne,
What I'm trying to say is who cares if Obama was in "Dress" at all! Hell I'm thankful he was'nt "Nekkid".
He should'nt be ashamed of it, and instead he and all the Democrat's and Liberals are getting all worked up and upset over using his middle name and the thought of seeing him in that photo.
And I say why?
Jenn,
I just cant quite grasp what the Fed is so upset about. If the Obama's have nothing to hide or be ashamed of what's the deal? lol
DD,
I think we already do, and what we know so far, is not that positive!
Well I agree DD.
After all this bug tussling over an outfit and a name, lol
Gee, why would people be using his middle name? I mean, "Hussein" doesn't conjure up any other idea other than Barack's middle name, right? If that's where you have sunk in terms of blasting him, getting ready for 8 years of a Black, Democrat President!
Who else was more qualified in the reconstruction of Iraq? Hmmm... let me see. THE UNITED STATES MILITARY! Sad to see that the right has NO faith in the military! ;-) ---The knife cuts both ways.
And to use the right's tired, useless, fear-mongering rhetoric...
Obama shouldn't release too many specifics of his plans for the war on terror...the terrorists might find out and it would embolden them! LOL!
Check out his website and read the black parts instead of the white parts. He's very specific. It just doesn't include oil or the Carlysle Group making billions of dollars.
Obama has nothing to hide. But if you don't want to believe that, keep posting the picture and keep typing his middle name so that people won't forget...that...well, who cares? He's not a terrorist and he doesn't e-mail Bin Laden...but who needs truth? "Truth" is what those crazy liberals are for. That's why they're crazy!
The former Republican congressman from Michigan, on Reagan's staff in the 80's (insert angels singing here), was arrested on 50 plus counts of aiding terrorist organizations. What's that guy's middle name?
keep typing his middle name so that people won't forget...
We will.
He's not a terrorist and he doesn't e-mail Bin Laden...
You said it so it must be true
Joaane said...But I actually have several life-long Republican friends (who are wonderful, caring people) who will not vote for McCain should he run against Obama.
I feel the same way about McCain but there is no chance of me voting for any of three candidates that are now being forced upon Americans. None of them have anything near the qualities needed to be President. The candidates we have to choose from are mere minor league players and have nothing of any substance to offer. All of them would have been called "also rans" just a few years ago. They are mere names on the ballot.
Federalist,
If that's where you have sunk in terms of blasting him, getting ready for 8 years of a Black, Democrat President!
Actually you dont have any idea how low I'm going to sink lol, but hey that's my job!
Who else was more qualified in the reconstruction of Iraq? Hmmm... let me see. THE UNITED STATES MILITARY! Sad to see that the right has NO faith in the military! ;-) ---The knife cuts both ways.
Yeah, I'm talking about while the Military is busy ya know winning the war? Keeping Security while the Iraqi Government get's thier crap together, and training Iraqi Military, In Iraq they are a little busy, when everything comes together the Military will get involved more in reconstruction.
Actually they have been working with KBR, And Halliburton and so and so all along.
Who do you think the contractors are that work for Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater etc..?
They are retired Military!
You can put the knife down now :-)
Federalist,
Obama has nothing to hide. But if you don't want to believe that, keep posting the picture and keep typing his middle name so that people won't forget...that...well, who cares? He's not a terrorist and he doesn't e-mail Bin Laden...but who needs truth? "Truth" is what those crazy liberals are for. That's why they're crazy!
That's exactly what I have been saying Fed, who cares?
Jenn,
All I know is if Obama and Hillary are to be stopped, it isnt going to happen by anyone voting for Mickey Mouse or staying home!
I know how you feel about McCain lol, but I gotta do what I gotta do and there is really no other way to stop these people.
Oh yeah I forgot,
Hillary and Obama need to be stopped by any means neccessary.
And If it takes throwing McCain at them, then that's what I am going to do.
I (At this point) would rather have 4 years of McCain than 4 years of Obama ANYDAY!! :-)
Holy crap, I've been away too long!
I don't understand the flap about McCain's warm-up guy saying 'Barack HUSSEIN Obama'. That's the guy's name. Would be any better or worse if we were to say 'John SIDNEY McCain'?
The thing about it, Indigo, is that it is said by someone like Bill Cunningham, for effect. It's not just saying it, to say a person's full name. Not so subtly, what is implied and what is conjured up, are associations to Muslims and Saddam- "the enemy".
As far as I see it, it is a bigoted point, and a loser for Republicans, that does us much political damage to drum it up. It is juvenile and beneath us.
We won't win, by going down this route.
In McCains middle name was Adolph do you think that Hillary/Obama would not use that to their advantage ? They would jump in it in a heat beat.
Ken,
If they did just that, they will only succeed in making themselves look bad. I would hope conservatives could travel the high road; but I suppose that's too much to ask for. *sigh*
I mean, Bush said way back when that he would "hunt down and bring the terrorists to justice, wherever they may be." (except when they're in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia)
Excuse me, federalist, but that is an ignorant comment. You're smarter than that. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are imperfect allies in the war on Islamic militants; would you have us invade anywhere we damn well please? It's certainly not President Bush's position, and to suggest it as such is sheer BDS. We're fighting this war on multiple fronts and the governments of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have been helpful in many ways, in capturing and killing mutual enemies (al-Qaeda operatives).
Thank God McCain flip-flopped again on the war, saying that it would be over soon and not stay 100 years in Iraq. John McConsistent.
Good grief! Go read the full context of the 100 year comment and do yourself a service and be honest about what he said, precisely.
1. "The Constitution is just a god-damned piece of paper."
stupid of him to have said.
2. "I like to tell people when the final history is written on Iraq, it will look like just a comma because there is — my point is, there’s a strong will for democracy."
Please take some reading comprehension classes. Devote a couple of brain cells, and tell me exactly what he means rather than use it as some cheap talking point.
It's asinine to pretend that you don't understand what was meant by the comment.
joanne,
Those are actually good points.
Obama still scares me, of course.
But good job!
And if Obama isnt affraid or has nothing to hide I dont see the harm in using his middle name, or showing a picture of him in his native heritage dress.
marie, in and of themselves, they are perfectly harmless and innocent.
But in the context of how us right-wingers wish to exploit the name, it smacks of racial, ethnic, and religious bigotry.
It's a loser for our side, and beneath us.
Personally, I find it offensive.
Word,
marie, in and of themselves, they are perfectly harmless and innocent.
But in the context of how us right-wingers wish to exploit the name, it smacks of racial, ethnic, and religious bigotry.
It's a loser for our side, and beneath us.
Personally, I find it offensive.
It's his middle name! I am not understanding how or why his middle name is off limits?
Like, Ronald WILSON Reagan, William JEFFERSON Clinton, Richard MILLHOUSE Nixon, etc.
How on earth does Obama's middle name smack of racial, ethnic, and religious bigotry?
I'm not that warm up Talk Radio Guy Bill (Insert Middle Name Because I Have No Clue What It Is) Cunningham!
I'm trying to make an example and point out that it's just Obama's name, and he should'nt be ashamed of it, and it should'nt be off limits!
And why on earth should it offend you Word? lol
It's his parent's fault that he has that middle name and I would love to know why they gave him that [Particular] middle name!
I want to know what they were thinking when they gave it to him.
If it was harmless, great!
If there is some specific reason they gave it to him, I would like to know that too.
I also dont understand why it is beneath us? It's a NAME!
What happened to Freedom of Speech here?
Is the picture offensive to you also? I dont see why or how any of this should be offensive to anyone.
I am just trying to find out more about the man.
I would also like to know if he is Muslim. As I understand it, he's Christian.
Are his parent's Muslim?
What provoked the name Hussein?
If it's just his middle name without any hint of something more sinister, I would like to know that too!
This should'nt be offensive to he or anyone else. But the left is all up in arms about it and I would like to know why?
I would also like to know is his heart in good condition?
What was his last tax return like?
Has he ever had Cancer? And if he has, is it in remission? When was his last Colonoscopy? Has he had his tonsils removed? Has he ever served in the Military?
Has he ever had anything in his health record that may not make him be able to perform his duties as President should he be elected?
What kind of home does he own?
Does he talk a good game about all of us paying for "Global Poverty" then go home to some 4 million dollar mansion?
How much does he pay for his haircuts?
If any of this is offensive, I want to know why?
I understand where you are coming from Word, but I have a million questions and when the left get's all up in arms over a middle name I want to know why?
It seems to me the left likes the name HUSSEIN! I mean they wanted a certain HUSSEIN to still be in Iraq and us never have gotten rid of him no matter how much money we were spending patrolling the "No fly zones", how much Genocide he was committing, no matter if he wanted to assassinate one of our President's, how he claimed he had WMD and we were the first ones to experience them if he had his way, and how much money that certain HUSSEIN was taking us for with the "Oil For Food Program" that we would have never known about had we never gone into Iraq.
Oh Yeah,
And how on earth did he become Dick Cheney's cousin? lol
marie,
lighten up. sit back and grin. you need to remember that this is a pc world now whether you like it or not. and that is all this is about. and that is all you need to understand about the flak.
and the only reason it is a pc world is the fact no one has ever determined what being anti-pc is yet.
The Griper,
How can I relax when I have so many questions?
I dont have questions about my Computer lol
This man may become the next President of the United States and I want to know about him!
Marie,
I'm just going to cut-and-paste my response to you from my blog, due to lack of time and energy:
"It's not a freedom of speech issue. People have the freedom to say his middle name; just like Hollywood liberals have the freedom to spout off at the Emmys, just like Bill Cunningham had the freedom to lower the bar as the opening act, just as McCain had the freedom of speech to rebuke and disassociate himself from it.
I mean, if we cant say Barack Hussein Obama, then we cant say John Sydney McCain? Or William Jefferson Clinton, or George Herbert Walker Bush?
It's just a name.
Of course it's just a name! But why on earth do you suppose OUR side of the political aisle is the one who insists on using his middle name, when Senator Obama himself doesn't refer to himself by it? It's for effect. It's to put into the minds of people, the correlation between him and Muslims and terrorists. Obama=Osama "Hussein" conjures up association with Saddam, and Muslim.
It belittles us as bigoted when we type out "Barack HUSSEIN Obama", with emphasis placed upon the middle name.
Of course there's nothing for Obama to be ashamed about with its usage. But the manner in which it is being said by those on the right is deplorable. And it only makes us look like bigots."
Word,
I see where you are coming from with this but I am not trying to be bigoted.
If we are to associate his First, Middle or Last name with anyone or anything then there is something wrong.
It doesnt seem bigoted to me to be able to use any person's name. No matter what color he or she is.
Maybe we should just call him
Big B.
That might settle the whole issue
Marie, if you want to know the reason Obama's middle name is Hussein, then go here:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html
If you take the time to read it, you will learn a lot about Obama.
I don't often disagree with Wordsmith, but this time I must. We should indeed take the high road, but this is war and war is very dirty indeed. I'm going to fight Obama with every thing I've got, regardless of how petty it is. Maybe if his entire name is used often enough people will start wondereing why his middle name is Hussein. I don't want to be stuck with this man as the president because I took the high road.
Sorry that link didn't work, but you can copy and paste it.
marie,
I'm not implying that you are being bigoted; but others are, in the intentional insinuation with which they place emphasis on Barack's middle name for no other reason than to draw the subliminal suggestion. Not for innocent's sake. Barack does not refer to himself by his full name. John McCain does not refer to himself by his full name. Franklin Delano Roosevelt did. There is a difference. There's also a difference between referring to someone like John McCain by his full name once in a blue moon; and another if you were to say his full name all the time, when that's not how he refers to himself. Someone who does this to Barack Obama, without ever doing it to everyone, has an ulterior agenda in mind.
If we are to associate his First, Middle or Last name with anyone or anything then there is something wrong.
The problem here is that others on our side who want to scaremonger Muslim connections have used his middle name for effect; and whether you mean to do so or not is no longer at issue. You might have the most innocent of intents, but how it is perceived has political ramifications that is not good for our side. It can backfire on us, bigtime.
gayle,
I read through most of the article, and it just reads too much like a bad National Inquirer opinion piece/smear. It doesn't help our side either. Right from the very first get-go in the first paragraph about being anti-American...it's just trash.
Word,
I understand all this.
But (God Forbid) If he is elected President do you think that the Justice that swears him in is going to leave his middle name out of the swearing in ceremony?
I dont intend on making a habit of this it's already been started on talk radio.
Let the chips fall where they may.
But you said you were personally offended by it.
That's what I dont understand.
Why would Obama's name be offending to you or anyone else?
It's his name for Pete's sake.
It wont be me who associates him with whomever, it will be talk radio and Michael Medved included.
I understand the ramifications of it. I dont intend to play "Dirty Politics" and I dont intend to be a "Bigot" I just feel if I use his entire name at times no one should be upset about it.
I am not the Prejudice type. I personally dont care what his entire name is, but I may use it from time to time and I dont expect anyone to get offended by it. It's his name for God's sake!
Look at it this way, was Elizabeth Edwards off limit's just because she has cancer? NO!
This off limit's thing is for the birds.
And you or anyone else should not be offended by our possible next President's middle name!
Now I will admit that the radio dude who kept using it over and over again was being an ass.
That was obvious what he was trying to do.
I usually just call the guy Obama, but since it sounds so much like Osama maybe I should just say Big B or something else.
Personally I dont like the guy. He seems like he has this whole thing locked up and we are all a bunch of idiots. He's arrogant, has NO Foreign Policy experience, and think's he is the greatest speaker in the world.
I just dont see all the crap everyone else does, but it will probably get worse.
Cant blame me!
I didnt name him!
And NO I am not going to make an issue of this.
I want to get past this and on to his voting record, who he had dealings with in the past, etc..
But dont expect this to go away any time soon because talk radio and the MSM have already picked it up and it might go on for a bit.
I just wanted to know why his middle name was off limit's because telling someone they cant or should'nt use it makes them want to use it all the more.
Should I just refer to him as that black guy running for President? Because every one of his names sounds terroristic like.
Pretty soon we wont even be able to refer to him as anything other than the Democrat Guy running for President.
Well I'm not going to.
But you said you were personally offended by it.
The context of where I said that:
But in the context of how us right-wingers wish to exploit the name, it smacks of racial, ethnic, and religious bigotry.
It's a loser for our side, and beneath us.
Personally, I find it offensive.
I find it offensive, only as how it is being used by people like Bill Cunningham, and many places in the blogosphere. Those who are basically sliming Obama. It's the same crowd of conservatives who act as if the whole of Islam wants to subjugate the world and who cherrypick only the bad, as it relates to Islam and Muslims. Anything positive is seen as "not true Islam" and dismissed because it doesn't fit in neatly with the conservative Islam-hating world view.
It only proves us to be religious bigots. Some of us call it not having our heads in the sand. But really, these conservatives are engaged in religious bigotry, and they can't even see it.
That's what I dont understand.
Why would Obama's name be offending to you or anyone else?
I'm not sure how to make it any more clearer. In and of itself, the name is nothing offensive, nor to be ashamed of. There's nothing at all wrong with the name "Hussein"; nor even the name "Osama" or "Adolf".
But when Obama doesn't use his full name on a regular basis, why do you suppose right-wingers are doing just that, with emphasis in capital letters on the middle name?!
It's his name for Pete's sake.
You said you understand where I'm coming from; but I'm not sure you do, since we have been going in circles in the last couple of comments, I think.
It wont be me who associates him with whomever, it will be talk radio and Michael Medved included.
Actually, Michael Medved makes an even more emphatic case for why conservatives are hurting themselves with emphasizing Barack's middle name.
The fact that others in talk radio or wherever are doing it, doesn't make it right, doesn't make it a good idea, doesn't make it politically beneficial to our side.
And you or anyone else should not be offended by our possible next President's middle name!
I'm not offended by his middle name. Obama is not offended by his middle name.
How it is used by rightwing pundits is offensive. The ones who want to draw an association to Islamic radicals.
Now I will admit that the radio dude who kept using it over and over again was being an ass.
That was obvious what he was trying to do.
Then you understand the type of usage I am referring to.
I usually just call the guy Obama, but since it sounds so much like Osama maybe I should just say Big B or something else.
No, no, no! *sigh*. Now those who would say "Barack Osama"....now that would be "wrong".
Please note the quotation marks.
Personally I dont like the guy. He seems like he has this whole thing locked up and we are all a bunch of idiots. He's arrogant, has NO Foreign Policy experience, and think's he is the greatest speaker in the world.
Uh..yeah, I have no love for living under an Obama Administration, either.
This is why I'm not sure you are getting my point:
I just wanted to know why his middle name was off limit's because telling someone they cant or should'nt use it makes them want to use it all the more.
Should I just refer to him as that black guy running for President? Because every one of his names sounds terroristic like.
Pretty soon we wont even be able to refer to him as anything other than the Democrat Guy running for President.
All I can do is *sigh* and throw up my hands.
But (God Forbid) If he is elected President do you think that the Justice that swears him in is going to leave his middle name out of the swearing in ceremony?
That's an entirely different context. In formalities, it's pretty normal and dignified, don't you think?
And Obama won't be sworn in on a Koran.
Word!!!!
Let's just drop it!
We are going in circles here.
I was trying to make a point which has gotten so far lost I am tired of it now.
You have it your way and I'll have it mine OK? lol
I am not going to argue over this guy's middle name!!!
Usually I agree with you but on this? I just cant.
So it's just better if we drop the whole damn thing!!
But marie....this is so epic! Two allies squabbling over a political enemy's middle name! It means a great deal in the grand scheme of things, you know.
Ok, moving on....
Word,
But marie....this is so epic! Two allies squabbling over a political enemy's middle name! It means a great deal in the grand scheme of things, you know.
Ok, moving on....
I just had to come back and check this post
You crack me up I swear
Ya know I Love ya but we are never going to agree on this.
You know my oldest son doesnt even have a middle name?
He comes here for lunch on his lunchbreak every day and wonders why I am laughing so hard, and I tell him it's over a middle name.
He say's I'm glad I dont have one lol
He has no clue what's going on and it just cracks me up.
I hope that you and Wordsmith are still friends, Marie! I'm using Obama's middle name as well because I do think there is something to it. I have a link that may actually explain why the man's middle name is Hussein. It's at the bottom of my latest post. I intend to use it and it doesn't have anything to do with being bigotted against blacks. Bigotted against Muslims... no! Bigotted against radical Muslims... you bet I am. So on this I agree with you. I hope that it won't destroy my friendship with Wordsmith either, because I think very highly of him.
Gayle,
I would hope so.
I would hate to think Big B broke us up lol
It appears everyone is going to use Obama's middle name now that there has been such a fuss made about it.
I dont see the bigotry in this either Gayle. I dont understand or maybe I'm blind as a bat but I'm just not getting why his middle name is off limits and now everyone will use it just because everyone else said it was off limits which makes people want to use it all the more.
Why couldnt his middle name be Harold or something?
One reason I'm not worried about Aholibama dressing up like a Somali elder lives here: http://tiny.cc/UBEjD
But it appears that the Democrats have achieved the Holy Grail of electoral politics; a candidate whose membership in a protected class of victims means he can't be criticized.
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