Who Is Ron Paul? Part #17
These Videos are worth the watch. Want to go back in time? Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr. (1988) talking about "Legalizing Drugs"! Boy does Ron Paul get worked up, or unhinged, you be the judge :-)
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Nevermind the pop up's, these must have been made by a Ron Paul supporter.
Is this guy for real? I mean seriously. There is NO WAY I'm electing anyone for President that want's to Legalize drugs!
Nevermind the pop up's, these must have been made by a Ron Paul supporter.
Is this guy for real? I mean seriously. There is NO WAY I'm electing anyone for President that want's to Legalize drugs!
posted by Marie's Two Cents | 11:54 AM
20 Comments:
Marie,
I didn't bother watching the vids, yet.
But I did do a post a couple of years ago, making a case for why legalizing drugs might be a conservative solution to the problem. I'm very anti-drug, too. If you're interested, I'll dig up the link. If I remember, I was influenced to start thinking about this by John Stossel (a libertarian conservative).
Word,
Sure throw me the link.
I can understand somewhat this way of thinking by eliminating the drug dealer you eliminate some of the crime.
But on the other hand it's all over the place (If it were legal) and kids would have alot more access to it and really the General Public as well, and I think it would create more addicts than it would prevent.
For Instance:
I dont have a clue where to get Cocaine, and if I saw it legal in a store right in front of my face would I or would I not be tempted to try it, since it would be legal and all. (Of course this is hypothetical) But if it's not legal, and I dont travel in those circles I would never have to see it therefore the temptation wouldnt be there!
I just think it's a really bad bad idea.
Legalizing serves only to creat more drug users. This had been proven to be the case in all the places that they have legalized drugs and now they are rethinking this misguided policy. Switzerland, UK, Holland and parts of Germany have gone back to the drawing just to name a few. Do you think for one minute the government will stop drug dealers from smuggling and selling drugs illegally? Not a chance, having the government become a a drug dealer would only serve to be another outlet for people to obtain drugs and put the rest of us in more danger with more people that are under the influence of mood and mind altering drugs.
Pot is harmless at
Chase Maryland
Been There, saw that
oh yeah, almost forgot. I used to watch Morton Downey Jr, gosh there was some funny stuff on that show.
I would even watch that show with my Dad and we would get into arguments about guns, he didn't like them but then in the end, after he died. I found out he owned one because I had convinced him that I was right about owning one, Mom told me after I found it when we were cleaning out the house so she could move into an assisted living facility. Men!!!! sheesh!!!
Yeah, the "War on drugs" has been such a success. I'm glad you support freedom. I've been looking in the constitution for the clause that allows the federal government to regulate drugs and I can't find it and neither can Judge Andrew Napolitano.
The anonymous dunderheads are at it again Marie. Congress has the Constitutional authority and right to pass laws making anything illegal or legal. Under Article I Section I, missed that one eh? Under article 1 section 7 Every bill has to be presented to the President before it becomes law. The President can sign it or veto it and to overide that veto it will a 2/3rds majority. Drugs like cocaine and marijuana were made illegal by statute and signed by the President therefore the arguments you have presented are completely without merit period Signed, sealed and delivered ouch, I know it stings but get used to it if you an arpee.
Anon,
Yeah, the "War on drugs" has been such a success. I'm glad you support freedom. I've been looking in the constitution for the clause that allows the federal government to regulate drugs and I can't find it and neither can Judge Andrew Napolitano.
My guess is George Washington, Ben Franklin and the rest of the boy's werent doing lines of Cocaine, or stuffing Heroin up thier arms! Then again (Contrary to polular belief, I wasnt there but I doubt it)
Our Framers couldnt possibly have imagined what this place would look like in 2010!
They wrote the Constitution for the here and now and some of the future past 1787.
They left it up to us to amend the Constitution as needed, as times changed!
Would you seriously (Hypotheticaly of course) want your son or daughter going through a lunch line at school for instance, getting thier lunch put on thier tray by a lady who just did a shot of Heroin, or a line of Cocaine, and she short circuits and drops hot mashed potatoes on your son or daughters arm instead of thier tray? There are so many things that can go wrong with the legalization of drugs I can think of a million reasons why drugs should NEVER be legalized.
If you watch one of these segments (I forgot which one) Morton Downey correctly suggested that during prohibition we had 2 million alcoholics, and after prohibition we had 38 million.
Same thing will happen with drugs.
Jenn,
Do you also remember Wally George? LMAO!
Marie,
Here's the link to my post of two years ago.
Jennifer makes some good points for me to munch on. Haven't thought of this issue in recent days, so I'm not up-to-date on any new information/studies.
To answer your comment, Marie, Ron Paul is definitely unhinged. I don't consider him to be a Republican and I don't believe he should be running as one. He doesn't appear to be living in the real world. He's a total isolationist and that's just not a feasable option in the 21st century.
I absolutely detest all the hollering and screaming going on in those videos. This is what I hate about what's happening in America. People have no respect for one another any more and can't talk to each other and present their side of an issue rationally. Hannity and Colmes (and I really like Hannity) even drives me nuts because often times everyone starts talking and raising there voices at once and you can't even tell what they are saying! I quit watching it for that reason and watch "Hannity's America" instead.
Incidentally, the comment made by Morton Downy, Jr. that he would puke on Ron Paul's head if he were president sounded like something a leftist would say. It made me ashamed of him. I detest R. Paul too, but it would never occur to me to say that to anyone running for President. Not even Hillary!
Gayle,
Morton Downey Jr. was basically a real far right entertainer.
He would bring on these far left loones or Liberatarian's and hammer them into the ground. Basically (If you were into that sort of thing) it was for entertainment purposes.
I can understand your frustration with all the hollering and stuff.
But I forgot all about Morton Downey Jr until I found these Video's and I had no idea Ron Paul even tried to run for President back then.
But the reason I put these Video's on was to see how unhinged Ron Paul was and the legalizing of drugs I had NO IDEA was even an issue with him.
He is a Nutball and I want everyone to see him for who he really is, past and present!
Marie, I never heard of Wally George before you mentioned his name. I checked out You Tube and there is a clip of him and his show "Hot Seat" there from early 80's. Missed that one somehow.
Gayle is right about MD jr being pretty crude at times. That show did help bridge a huge gap with my Father and me though. I'd go over there and we would argue about what MD jr was ranting about. My Dad was a Philly Democrat but for the most part a conservative Democrat not like the whackos that control the party now. He hated war protesters too and thought using firehoses with soap would clean things up so to speak.
Drugs, my Dad hated people that used drugs and would fire anyone on the spot if caught them using drugs or alcohol on or near the Rail Road shop where he was the General Foreman. It killed him when I admitted to being an alcoholic but he did everything he could to get me help after I admitted to it and sought help. Been sober now for 18 years.
I've heard all the arguments for legalizing drugs. I have plenty of experience with the effects of their use and misuse. I saw the train at Chase MD that was being run by a pothead. I say to the people that think legalizing drugs will cut down on the consumption and make drugs acceptable to go talk with the firefighters and the families of the people that were on that train.
That wasn't an isolated incident it was thew last straw in a long line of incidents. I watched as train after train crashed into each other injuring hundreds of people and damging millions of dollars worth of equipment as the Engineers and tower operators were found to be high on the job or still under the influence after years of their abuse.
Right after the Chase wreck caused by the pothead engineer Ricky Gates, the Federal Government classified job positions like that as saftey sensitive and started random drug testing. We still get morons fired for using drugs so this is something that has to be done.
It's a fine thing to come up with all kinds of theories about what needs to be done about drug abuse but their are people including myself that rely on others to be drug free and competent in their saftey sensitive job descriptions. I would be suprised if they thought letting down our guard would a good idea.
Jenn,
Maybe Wally George was a California thing?
I was living in California at that time so maybe alot of people dont know who Wally Goerge is. You know that actress Rebecca Demornay? Or however you spell her last name. That's her father lol
I am glad to hear you and your father had a meeting of the minds so to speak and Mort could help lol
Yes he was crude at times I remember, but some of his stuff was funny as heck. I mean all for entertainment.
And glad you have been sober for 18 years! That's quite an accomplishment!
I havent yet read your link to the Train Wreck but it sounds like it was pretty bad and another example of why drugs should NOT be legalized!
I didnt even know this was an issue with Ron Paul. The more I am finding out about this man the more I understand why he has such a following! THEY ALL WANT TO GET HIGH!! LEGALLY!! Hell they all may be High as a kite NOW!
As I was pointing out to Anonymouse, there are a million reasons I can think of why drugs should NEVER be legalized!
But evidently that seems to carry quite a following with Ron Paul and NOW I am beginning to understand his cult!
great find Marie...what a crazy notion!..imagine these our future leaders?...sheesh!
How can you tell someone what they can or can't put into THEIR own body? You don't own them. You own yourself and are responsible for your children up until a certain age. That's one thing that's so hypocritical with people today who continually talk about "freedom" when they don't practice what they preach. Freedom comes with risk and if someone on drugs violates another person's rights in any way then that's when the government steps in. That's what freedom is. Most people are scared of true freedom today and are more than willing to give it up for the illusion of safety despite Benjamin Franklin's warnings.
THEY ALL WANT TO GET HIGH!! LEGALLY!! Hell they all may be High as a kite NOW!--marie
Americans can get legally high, and they do--on alcohol, which is responsible for more death, misery, and family destruction than you'd want to know.
That doesn't mean that I support the legalization of all drugs. I don't. But some illegal drugs are less harmful than others--marijuana--in fact, can help some people who are undergoing chemotherapy.
Illegal drug usage is a huge problem, to be sure, and I don't have the answers.
My question would be why do so many people feel the need to anesthetize themselves from reality in this, the greatest country in the world? Why?
Anon,
Damn I wish you would make a name,
How about the laws that were on the books BEFORE drugs ever entered the scene?
No I dont "Own" anyone, but that doesnt mean if I was to walk in and find you with a gun in your hand, ready to commit suicide that I shouldnt make a contious choice instead of standing there (Is this in the Constitution or not?) and try to figure out what your rights may be before I stop you from blowing your head off!!
There is a fine line where Freedom stops and "Personal Responsibility begins"!
Joanne,
We may actually find ourselves on the same side of an issue for once lol
Boy Marie, you love getting the Pauliacs riled don't you ? Great keep it up until this loon bin drops into obscurity where he belongs!
Ken,
I feel it is my duty to bring this man into the spot light to see just what it is about him that creates such a following.
And I think I found it!
DRUGS!!
He and his followers all want to get high, legally!
Then again I think they are all high NOW!
Every time you use illegal drugs it is a violation of others freedom to feel secure from dopers killing you accidently with their impaired actions. Your freedom to use any kind of drug without the consent of a doctor ended at the begininnig of the 20th century and no one has ever made a case that makes any sense to end that restriction.
Joanne, pot is one of the most deceptive of all the illegal drugs. Sure it can relive pain in some circumstances but for the most part it turns people into listless, non motivated individuals that become a burden to society.
Pot users have been fooled into believing they can function normally when they under the influence but under the influence with pot goes alot farther than just at the time when it is smoked.
The bottom line is soceity is much better served maintaining controls on mood and mind altering drugs usuage and fighting the importation and misuse of these dangerous drugs. Sorry arpee, society has spoken.
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