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Homeland Security Advisory

July 01, 2008

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WESLEY CLARK & BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA....KISS MY ASS!!

Gen. Wesley Clark Denigrates McCain's Heroism

WASHINGTON: The U.S. presidential campaign turned angry Monday as supporters of John McCain rolled out a full-throated defense against attacks on the quality of his military experience and Senator Barack Obama attacked head-on the persistent rumors that his loyalties to the country were doubtful.

The McCain campaign appeared incensed by comments Sunday by an Obama supporter, the retired General Wesley Clark, that even heroic service by the Arizona senator as a naval aviator in Vietnam did not prepare him for the presidency.

"I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president," Clark said.

McCain, at a news conference in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, said that he thought remarks like Clark's were "unnecessary" but that the question of an apology was up to Obama.



"If that's the kind of campaign that Senator Obama and his surrogates and supporters want to engage in, I understand that," he said. "But it doesn't reduce the price of a gallon of gas by a penny" or do anything else to help Americans.

He added a moment later, "I know that General Clark's comment is not an isolated incident. I have no way of knowing what involvement Senator Obama has in that issue."

Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Illinois Democrat, said Monday that "Senator Obama honors and respects Senator McCain's service and of course he rejects yesterday's statement by General Clark."

A series of McCain surrogates, all with military connections and ties to the senator, made their discontent clear in a conference call arranged by the campaign.

"It is inconceivable to me that anyone would take a shot at Senator McCain's military experience or say he lacked experience because he didn't command troops in wartime, " said Admiral Leighton Smith, who has worked with McCain for years. "General Clark is way off base on this one."

Robert McFarlane, a Vietnam combat veteran who was national security adviser in the Reagan administration, suggested that "this may be part of a larger gambit."

He explained: "If the opposing candidate doesn't really have the experience or knowledge or depth in international affairs, then one approach can be, I suppose, to try to deny that Senator McCain does."

Obama traveled Monday to Independence, Missouri - well-known as the hometown of President Harry Truman - to proclaim his love of the country (Yeah! Right!!) and to try yet again to beat back persistent rumors, kept alive by conservative blogs and the rumor mill, that he is less than a true patriot.

"The question of who is or is not a patriot all too often poisons our political debates in ways that divide us rather than bring us together," he said. "We can no longer afford these kinds of divisions."

He explicitly paid tribute to McCain. Saying that patriotism involved loyalty to American ideals, "a willingness to dissent on behalf of those ideals," but also a willingness to sacrifice, he added that "for those like John McCain who have endured physical torment in service to our country, no further proof of such sacrifice is necessary."

But he sent a measured warning to any political opponent who continues to question his own patriotism.

"I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign," he said. "And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine."

As he spoke, the senator stood on a flag-bedecked stage and, providing visible refutation to rumors, he wore a clearly visible American flag pin on his lapel.

Rumors are a staple of politics, but Obama seems to face an unusual problem in tamping them down.

A Washington Post article Monday summed up the entirely false rumors being widely circulated in small-town America this way: "Barack Obama, born in Africa, is a possibly gay Muslim racist who refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance."

Patriotism, national security and foreign affairs were thus set to take an uncommonly high profile this week in both presidential campaigns.

Just as Obama has suffered from persistent rumors, some leftist blogs have been attacking McCain's military record with mounting ferocity.

The Politico journal reported Monday that critics have accused the senator of war crimes for bombing targets in Hanoi in the 1960s and castigated him for his coerced participation - after he suffered serious injuries when his plane was shot down, and following torture - in propaganda films.

McCain, who campaigned Monday in Pennsylvania, was set to travel Tuesday to Colombia and Mexico in his third foreign trip of the year. Obama plans two trips abroad in coming weeks, one to Western Europe and the other expected to include Afghanistan, Iraq and Jordan.

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Wesley Clark assails McCain's credentials...


Some on left target McCain's war record?
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Oh who the hell does Wesley Clark think he is? Maybe he was commander of Nato during the Croatia/Bosnia thing, but that doesnt even qualify Wesley Clark to make any judgements about John McCain during his time in Viet Nam! John McCain was a Commander of a group of fighter Pilots in Viet Nam who got shot down, was tortured by the enemy and held prisoner for FIVE FRIGGEN YEARS!!! NO! This is nothing like John Kerry and the Swiftboat guy's. The Swiftboat Vets were on Kerry's boat with him and saw what they saw and couldnt take him lying about his experiences not to mention throwing his medals over the wall of the White House. John McCain did his duty, never threw his medals anywhere and paid dearly for his Country. Can Barack Hussein Obama say the same? I think NOT! Screw Wesley Clark and Barack Obama!



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13 Comments:

Blogger Vigilante said...

General Clark is right-on! John McCain's sense of entitlement is not an adequate test of presidential caliber. But judgment is. McCain is Geo Bush III. Clark has brains as well as guts. Obama-Clark '08!

July 01, 2008 7:23 AM  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Say what you really mean Marie ! LOL

Two great minds, I wrote on this same subject today.

Clark is a Weasel. This also coming from the same idiot who claimed that Kerry's command of a Swift Boat qualified him to be President in 2004.

July 01, 2008 8:01 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Vigilante,

You are NUTS!

I hope you really werent counting on Obama/Clark in '08 because Clark just shot himself in the foot after removing it from his mouth.

Wesley Clark has the audacity to question whether McCain has the experience to be President after John McCain's humongous service to this Country?

John McCain served proudly in the Armed Forces, was shot down, a POW, became a United States Senator, has served as Senator forever, and has 2 sons serving in Iraq.

What does Obama have? NOTHING!

He's a jr Senator, and as far left wing as you can get.

He has a whacked out Pastor, ties to terrorist's, and shady dealings with a fundraisor who is now serving time in JAIL!

Some Resume!

Oh and did I mention he's black? Not my word's, his words.

I dont understand you on the left really! You will vote for anyone the left throws out there regardless of their shady dealings, and left wing way's.

You guy's will vote for people that tell you straight to your face they are going to take things away from you, make government bigger, and tax everyone to death!

You people are jackasses. No wonder the Donkey is the Mascot of your party.
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Ken,

You know me I usually do say what I mean :-)

I will be over to your place soon since I have the computer for a bit today.

July 01, 2008 12:39 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

Marie, Wes Clark has always been a whack job extraordinaire. He ran for president and was out after only of few weeks of gaffes complete inconsistent behavior. Talk about loose cannons, I think Obama should choose Wes Clark as his running mate the humor in watching a self destructing campaign would be the topic of conversation for years to come.

July 01, 2008 10:24 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

Marie your new vistor is a walking, talking communist manifesto.

July 01, 2008 10:27 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Jenn,

You are right. Obama should choose Clark.

Haha I love that:

watching a self destructing campaign would be the topic of conversation for years to come.

LMAO!


Yes I know my new visitor is whacked.

I couldnt help after reading your comment going and visiting his site and yes it's a maneifesto alright.

I really know how to real 'em in dont I? Sweet Jesus.

July 01, 2008 11:44 PM  
Blogger DD2 aka Debonair Dude said...

Lets face it,Clark is Obama's hit man.
That comment was given to him by Obama's people to stir the pot.
Clark may be dumb, but can he be that dumb?

Well maybe.

July 02, 2008 6:17 AM  
Blogger ch3 said...

Gee, Marie, where were you and all your "ditto heads" (sorry, Rush) when the Republicans continually attacked Senator Kerry's service record? Seems it was fine then for former veterans and Republicans to show such disrespect to a man who sacrificed a part of life for his country. Senator McCain did hardly anything to denounce those attacks. Different standard, nothing new.

In addtion, General Clark makes a very valid argument. He is questioning the assumption that Senator McCain will make a better President and Commander-in-Chief because he has a military record. We should always honor the service of any veteran who has served his/her country, but it does not qualify one to be the Commander-in-Chief. General Clark, a former Vietnam veteran himself, was not attacking Senator McCain personally, he was questioning the assumption. To say otherwise is being disingenuous.

July 02, 2008 6:46 AM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

when the Republicans continually attacked Senator Kerry's service record? Seems it was fine then for former veterans and Republicans to show such disrespect to a man who sacrificed a part of life for his country.


The difference is, the organization as much as anything attacked Kerry for his post-war attacks/statements against his fellow vets. They took issue with that, which is why it became SWIFT Vets and POWs for Truth, not just swiftboat vets.

Senator McCain did hardly anything to denounce those attacks. Different standard, nothing new.

Say again?!?


In addtion, General Clark makes a very valid argument. He is questioning the assumption that Senator McCain will make a better President and Commander-in-Chief because he has a military record.


So McCain's campaigning largely as a war hero? Not true. You're confusing him for "I served in Vietnam" Kerry.

We should always honor the service of any veteran who has served his/her country, but it does not qualify one to be the Commander-in-Chief.

No crap. But when one draws comparisons between McCain's experience and service to his country and Obama's history of experience and service to his country...the contrast is rather stark, don't you think?

General Clark, a former Vietnam veteran himself, was not attacking Senator McCain personally, he was questioning the assumption.

It's called political spin. Clark did denigrate McCain's service by how he characterized McCain's getting shot down.

To say otherwise is being disingenuous.

Are you being genuine?

July 02, 2008 10:09 AM  
Blogger Gayle said...

LOL Wordsmith! You know he's not being genuine. :)

Marie, I absolutely love that video at the top of your blog, hon. That woman is right on and she has a right to be mad as hell! I would love to shake her hand and congratulate her.

As far as Clark, as I said somewhere else, I'd love to make an effigy of him and stick pins in it, but I don't believe in witchcraft. Maybe I'll do it anyway. It would be fun!

July 02, 2008 11:26 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

DD,

If Clark is Obama's hit man then he is doing a fantastic job of denegrating his own service to this Country.

Yep, Clark can be that dumb.
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ch3?,

Gee, Marie, where were you and all your "ditto heads" (sorry, Rush) when the Republicans continually attacked Senator Kerry's service record? Seems it was fine then for former veterans and Republicans to show such disrespect to a man who sacrificed a part of life for his country. Senator McCain did hardly anything to denounce those attacks. Different standard, nothing new.


Uh, you are confused as Wordsmith so eloquently put it, The Swift Boat Vet's were all on thier own about John Kerry.

They had nothing to do with the Republican party and were NOT endorsed by or paid by them.

They Swift Boat Vets served with Kerry and were not at all pleased with the fact that Kerry testified before a house Committee and called them "Baby Killers", "They raised villages reminisent of Genghas Kahn", etc.. and when he came home he threw his medals over the White House Wall.

They were pissed. I cant blame them and this has absolutely nothing to do with this issue.

Wordsmith is right, McCain is NOT running on his war record unlike Kerry tried to.

McCain has other fish to fry and it's the Democrat's making an issue out of his Military service not the Republicans. He has alot more to run on other than being in the Military, and he never has made an issue out of his service.

Speaking of doing nothing to denounce an ad how about the Democrat's not denouncing the "General Patraeus General Betray Us" ad? I never heard ONE Democrat denounce that piece of trash!

Nope nothing new alright.


In addtion, General Clark makes a very valid argument. He is questioning the assumption that Senator McCain will make a better President and Commander-in-Chief because he has a military record. We should always honor the service of any veteran who has served his/her country, but it does not qualify one to be the Commander-in-Chief. General Clark, a former Vietnam veteran himself, was not attacking Senator McCain personally, he was questioning the assumption. To say otherwise is being disingenuous.

Hmmm, gee it's seems like the pot calling the kettle black here.

Wesley Clark tried to lead one to believe that since he was once in the Military and was running for President that he would be best to be Commander-In-Cheif or dont you remember that?

I never heard anyone attack or denegrade Clark's Military Service when he was running for President and he made an issue out of it.

So before running off at the fingers I suggest you re-think the issue here.

McCain is running not on his Military Service but on the Issues that face this Country today. However it is very helpful that he WAS in the Military since we are at war!

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Thank's Word for that post, I see this is an issue mounting and these people need to be set straight :-)
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Gayle,

I am a big fan of Harriet lol. Isnt she a doll?

An effigy lol Gayle.

July 02, 2008 3:35 PM  
Blogger Indigo Red said...

I worked with a Vietnamese man until last year who had been a Major in the SVietnam Army. He served with Kerry and the Swift Boats which carried him and his men into combat.

Before the Unfit for Command book came out, the Major was telling us the same stories about Kerry as are in the book. One mission, my friend was on Kerry's boat going up river to a village that was suspected of VC support. Before they got close to the vil, shore fire was heard and Kerry turned away from the gunfire. He finally arrived when it was over claimimg he got lost. He frequently got lost while getting to the action, but he always madde it back to base without problem.

Wesley Clark has a long military history and I thank him for that. However, he was forced into retirement because of his command judgements, decisions, and actions in the Balkans War. He was roundly criticized for his cozy relationships with the bad guy leaders, the guys put on trial for crimes against humanity and other war crimes. Clark chooses the wrong friends just like Obama.

July 02, 2008 8:52 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Thank's Indigo :-)

The more true stories the better on this post.

July 02, 2008 11:29 PM  

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