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May 01, 2008

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Carrier Strike Groups Head For Persian Gulf To Give Iran A Reminder

Deployment of second carrier to Gulf a 'reminder'

US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said Tuesday the deployment of a second aircraft carrier to the Gulf should be seen as a "reminder" of US military power in the region.

But Gates flatly denied that the United States was preparing the ground for military strikes against Iran.

"I don't think we'll have two carriers for a protracted period of time. So I don't see it as an escalation. I think it could be seen, though, as a reminder," Gates told reporters here during a visit with Mexican officials.

The arrival of the USS Abraham Lincoln in the Gulf follows a noticeable hardening in US rhetoric against Iran for meddling in Iraq and playing a destabilizing role in the region.

USS Abraham Lincoln

Commander Jeff Davis, a US Navy spokesman, said the Lincoln would overlap with the departing carrier USS Harry Truman by "no more than a day or two." He said it was a "routine regular replacement."

CBS News reported that the Pentagon has ordered new options be drawn up for attacking Iran and that the State Department has begun drafting an ultimatum that would tell Iran to stop meddling or else.

But when asked here whether the Pentagon was preparing for military strikes against Iran, Gates said flatly, "No."

The stepped-up US rhetoric against Iran has come against the backdrop of an intensifying violence in Iraq as US forces clash with Shiite militia "special groups" that the US military say are backed by Iran.

Some 44 US soldiers have been killed in Iraq so far this month, a grim rebound that comes as US "surge" brigades are withdrawing from the country.

Gates said a number of the latest casualties had come from rocketing of the fortified Green Zone and joint security stations from Sadr City, a bastion of followers of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.

"We just haven't seen that for some period of time. So I think that's the reason for the spike in casualties, sad to say," he said.

"As we work our way around Sadr City, which we basically have stayed out of, we are encountering the kind of heavy combat" that US forces have experienced when they have gone into other new areas, Gates said.

"Clearly we are watching it very closely. But I think that General Petraeus is comfortable with the plans we have to bring out at least the five surge brigades," he said.

HMS Manchester/UK Prepares To Join Carrier Group

General David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq, has charged that the Quds Force, a covert branch of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, was funding, training and arming Shiite militants to kill US troops.

Petraeus and other military leaders have said that the extent of the Iranian involvement became apparent last month after an Iraqi government crackdown in the southern port of Basra on armed gangs that exploded into violence.

He told Congress earlier this month that the Iranian-backed "special groups" were the greatest long-term threat to a viable democratic Iraq.

Admiral Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Friday he was increasingly concerned about Iran's behavior and pointedly warned that "it would be a mistake to think we are out of combat power."

At the same time, Mullen said military action was not imminent and acknowledged that a third US conflict in the Middle East would be "very stressing for us."

Gates also has played down the military option until now.

"Another war in the Middle East is the last thing we need and, in fact, I believe it would be disastrous on a number of levels," he said in a speech last week at the US Military Academy at West Point on April 21.

"But the military option must be kept on the table given the destabilizing policies of the regime and the risks inherent in a future Iranian nuclear threat -- either directly or through proliferations," he said.

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HMS Manchester prepares to join US Carrier Strike Group

Azerbaijan blocks Russian nuke shipment to Iran

*snip* Azerbaijan blocks Russian nuke shipment to Iran

NICOSIA — Iran has reported that a shipment of Russian nuclear equipment was being held in neighboring Azerbaijan.
Azerbaijan, an ally of the United States, has acknowledged the delay. The Azeri government said it has sought to determine whether the nuclear shipment violated United Nations Security Council sanctions on Iran. See above link for the entire story.

President Akmenutjob better be looking out his back window! Quit meddling in our business in Iraq Akmenutjob, or you are soon to be toast! Try and Buzz that ship ha!

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Blogger Indigo Red said...

Hey, nice McCain banner, Marie!

Good lord, the Lincoln is a magnificent ship. I'm glad it's ours.

The article says Gates talked to some Mexican diplomats - did you hear that one of the Mexican delegation was caught stealing Blackberries in the White House? He had pocketed seven or eight of the comm units when the Secret Service stopped him.

April 30, 2008 10:19 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

You guys are going to get your wish! Only days away!

What do you all do for this type of event? The anticipation has to be overwhelming. Will there be some sort of gathering at your house Marie? A full-on cookout or just snacks and Busch beer?

I wish I could be there...keep your fingers crossed everyone and don't forget to set your DVR!

May 01, 2008 6:20 AM  
Blogger Gayle said...

I have to wonder whose side the Federalist is on, Marie, ours or their's? That old saying "if you had any brains you'd be dangerous" is not true. Liberals are dangerous anyway!

No, I doubt seriously that Achmadinejad will mess with that ship. LOL!

May 01, 2008 7:26 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I told you I was stealing your banner :-)

I'm glad that ship is ours also whewee

Yes I heard about the Mexican claiming diplomatic immunity after steaking 8 of thier blackberries LOL, what on earth?
Some people will try anything I swear.


LMMFAO! I spit out my coffee when I read that. Oh sometimes you can be funny.

Oh we will probably stuff a pig in the ground and have some drinks in those fancy little plastic dixie cups with an umbreller pokin' out.

Ocassionally someone will go check the TV and yell "It's starting"!!!

Then we will all run in tripping over each other to get to the TV and see the first bombs being dropped!

My God you are something else.

They are going to sit in Iran's backyard to make a statement dufuss.


I think Fed is on thier side.

I know it Liberals are nutballs, whatever we do it's all our fault, they can kill as many of our servicemen as they like but it's still our fault as far as the Liberals are concerned.

If the Iranians are just the least bit smart they will leave that ship alone lol

May 01, 2008 7:51 AM  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Wasn't it John McCain who made a play on the Beach Boys song when he sang, "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran ?

Achmanutjob needs to look over his back and understand that his crap will be dealt with!

May 01, 2008 8:13 AM  
Anonymous Phillip said...

Bravo Federalist, my thoughts exactly. Don't you love how any disagreement with the right-wing extremists means we must be on "their" side? Shows a really healthy understanding of how our democracy works, huh?

Marie, one can be opposed to the Iranian government and their policies, while still appreciating the incredible irony of your demanding that a country bordering Iraq (and having recently fought them in one of the worst wars of the 20th century) "stay out of OUR business" there, us being of course halfway around the world from Iraq. "Our" business? Isn't it the Iraqis' business?

I have a better idea. How about we ALL stay out of Iraq's business?

I look forward to the productive and predictable comments to follow ("idiot," "traitor," etc.)

May 01, 2008 8:49 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I see Fed brought a friend how sweet!

By OUR business there I mean Killing OUR Soldiers with Iranian made munitions.

It is OUR business as well as the Iraqi's business, they are our ally in case you forgot. And want us to stay until they can take care of themselves.

I have a better idea also, how about you come to the BBQ :-)

May 01, 2008 9:04 AM  
Anonymous Phillip said...

Hmm, I do like BBQ. Especially as done down here in the Carolinas. Most bbq joints around here have a lot of rightward-leaning signs on the walls, but I have to say, when it comes to the 'cue, flavor trumps politics for me :-)

I might just be there.

May 01, 2008 11:19 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

C'mon, Marie? You have to admit you're getting excited about the possibility of more war and shock and awe and sticking our chest out...but that's as far as you take it. You forget about the effects of war on the other side.

And just think? Cluster bombs! When the civilians believe that the bombing raid is over, the slowly creep out of their homes. Kids begin to congregate and play together. And as they go through the street and see a strange object, they bend over to pick it up....and....KABOOM! CLUSTER BOMB GOES OFF FOR THE SECOND TIME!

Your playbook is on

Check it out.

Happy 5th year Anniversary of "Mission Accomplished". Ooops...we're still there and no safer than on May 1, 2003!


Reason, truth and facts matter about as much on here as the Constitution does to Dick Cheney. Be prepared for only insults and twisted facts and my all-time favorite, "truthiness" by way of stating that the other side is guilty because they cannot prove (we won't believe) that they WERE NOT by that logic, GUILTY!

May 01, 2008 12:12 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


We have all kinds of Q out here.

We have Midwestern, Kansas City, Southern, even South Western which is a little more Tropical kind of Q, but it's ALL good.

Not owning a BBQ grill in Oklahoma is a sin lol

And it better be a big one like a cut in half 55 gallon drum kind with an exhaust pipe sticking out of it lol

You can smell it in the air on nice day's on the weekends.

Smokers going, Q's going mmmmm....

May 01, 2008 12:12 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


As I've said before you think of me totally wrong but then again that's not unusal.

We have bombs that will sink down and take out thier nuclear facilities without even hurting anything on top soil.

Yee of little faith!

We have NO intention of occupying or bombing the absolute hell out of Iran lol

Just threatening them to quit arming those that are hurting our Troops.

I'm on the Troops side, and I want them safe WHILE they are over there without Iran supplying the enemies with weapons.

The faster all this ends the faster we can come home or do you not get it.

As far as "Mission Accomplished", IT WAS!!

The mission George Bush was talking about was the overthrow of Saddam's regime and it WAS accomplished.

Geez I wish you would fire up the BBQ and quit swakin!

May 01, 2008 12:31 PM  
Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

he sure could use a reminder!! lol

May 01, 2008 2:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um, Marie? You remember what happened during the last naval confrontation between Britain and Iran in 2007. The Iranians captured British 15 sailors without firing a shot and held them for nearly two weeks before sending them back wearing cheap suits.
I can't imagine that the tea-drinking surrender monkeys of the Royal Navy will be much help.

May 01, 2008 7:14 PM  
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May 01, 2008 9:49 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

I tried to reenlist for Iraq but I was just out the age range. I'd lead any Marine or Navy unit into the first wave on Iran. I got some payback IOU's that have come due.

Faux and Phillip you guys are what is wrong with American males today you're weenies, grow some testicles, man up.

May 01, 2008 9:50 PM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

The arrival of the USS Abraham Lincoln in the Gulf follows a noticeable hardening in US rhetoric against Iran for meddling in Iraq and playing a destabilizing role in the region.

And as Fed pointed out, it's a bit ironic to be back out there on this anniversary date; and for the crew of the Lincoln, at the time, their mission was accomplished.

May 01, 2008 10:51 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Yes he does :-)


Uncle P,

Well I know the last group was a bit worthless but after that episode I dont think the Manchester will be that gullable.

I know you would be proud to lead the Navy on this mission Jenn.

Faux and Phillip you guys are what is wrong with American males today you're weenies, grow some testicles, man up.



I think Fed is bringing friends with him now lol

May 02, 2008 9:40 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...


Actually, I don't know the Phillip guy. It would appear that your bubble of lies is being permeated by those who bring facts and reality. What a bummer!


If having no balls translates to someone who doesn't see war as the FIRST option, then I am Mr. No Balls! But in the end, if that is how it is to be, I would prefer to be without balls than to be without brains.

If you try hard enough J_G, you could get courtside seats for the initial bombing of Iran (provided you take time off from cleaning your guns). Be sure to stick around for the clusterbombs, as they will go off a second and third time. You don't want to miss out on 6-year olds having their arms and faces blown off.

You gotta love the right-wing fascist mentality: if you're not for bombing more countries, then you are anti-American and you have no balls. If only Ben Franklin could see you now....

May 02, 2008 2:27 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...



Actually, I don't know the Phillip guy. It would appear that your bubble of lies is being permeated by those who bring facts and reality. What a bummer

My bubble of lies? LMAO!

And what would those be?

See? It's for people like you that I print entire stories sometimes SO THEY GET READ!

You gotta love the right-wing fascist mentality: if you're not for bombing more countries, then you are anti-American and you have no balls. If only Ben Franklin could see you now....

You Ass! No One is talking about bombing or occupying the entire Country of Iran, just parking a ship in thier backyard!

You gotta love the Liberal Mentality when you think parking a ship in someones backyard is a prelude to war.

May 02, 2008 3:18 PM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

PBS has been airing a program called "Carrier" this week. I have watched a number of documentaries on aircraft carriers on the military channel, so I thought I would tune in.

After five minutes I had to change the channel. First, they showed pilots as if they were bomb happy and disappointed they didn't get to drop their bombs that day. Next, a female sailor on saying how she doesn't like it when they drop bombs. Then a collection of sailors saying they don't like being in the Persian Gulf, not sure why we are there, must be about the oil....

They must have worked long and hard to find the people who would say such things, straight out of the defeatist playbook.

May 02, 2008 8:08 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Strange isnt it?

They had to have worked long and hard to find those Soldiers because as of 9-12-2001 every single soldier signed up for a reason and every one of them that signed on before that date knew what they were getting into. And those that re-enlisted knew they wanted to finish this mission.

An ALL volunteer force means just that, they VOLUNTEERED!!!

May 02, 2008 9:53 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Marie writes, "You gotta love the Liberal Mentality when you think parking a ship in someones backyard is a prelude to war."

I wonder if the "liberal mentality" would apply if Iran were to send a carrier to the Gulf of Mexico.

I mean, just because it would 20 miles off shore doesn't mean they would bomb and occupy Florida, right Marie? (according to your logic)

Marie, your quote is so ridiculous that I'm having difficulty believing that you were serious. You were joking, right?

If you were joking, very clever on your part. If you were seriously not joking, then you should not be allowed to vote or operate a vehicle or any type of machinery.


May 04, 2008 4:16 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

And now this????

Right from YOUR news source, Fox News. You know if they report this story below, it is usually buried and hidden.

Iraqi Official Says Iran Arms Evidence Not Conclusive

Sunday, May 04, 2008

BAGHDAD — A top Iraqi official said Sunday there was no conclusive evidence that Shiite extremists have been directly supplied with some Iranian arms as alleged by the United States.

Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said Iraq does not want trouble with any country, "especially Iran."

Al-Dabbagh was commenting on talks this week in Tehran between an Iraqi delegation and Iranian authorities aimed at halting suspected Iranian aid to some Shiite militias.

Asked about reports that some rockets made in 2007 or 2008 and seized in raids against militias were directly supplied by Iran, al-Dabbagh replied: "There is no conclusive evidence.",2933,354114,00.html

Fox should know better than to report such unpatriotic news. The Bush Crime Family is doing everything it can to get a war with Iran and this type of news is not helping the cause.

Can't they just go back to fear-mongering and saying stuff like, "We can't wait for the smoking gun to come in the form of a mushroom cloud" ? That worked fairly well the first time around.
And 19% of Fox News viewers still think Saddam was involved in 9/ it can't be that difficult.

May 04, 2008 4:29 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Just quit bitching!!

Just let the people who know what's going on handle all this!

May 05, 2008 10:58 AM  

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