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Homeland Security Advisory

February 14, 2008

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Senate Votes To Ban Waterboarding

Here we go again Congress trying to micromanage the War On Terror

The Senate voted Wednesdy to prohibit the CIA from using waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods on terror suspects despite President Bush's threat to veto any measure that limits the agency's interrogation techniques.
The prohibition was contained in a bill authorizing intelligence activities for the current year. The bill would restrict the CIA to the 19 interrogation techniques outlined in the Army field manual. That manual prohibits waterboarding, a method that makes an interrogation subject feel he is drowning. The bill passed on a 51-45 vote.

The House had approved the measure in December, so Wednesday's Senate vote set up a confrontation with the White House, where Bush has promised to veto any bill that restricts CIA questioning.

Arguing for such restrictions, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said the use of harsh tactics would boomerang on the United States.

"Retaliation is the way of the world. What we do to others, they will do to us—but worse," Rockefeller said. "This debate is about more than legality. It is also about morality, the way we see ourselves ... and what we represent to the world."

The legislation bars the CIA from using waterboarding, sensory deprivation or other harsh coercive methods to break a prisoner who refuses to answer questions. Those practices were banned by the military in 2006.

CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden said last week that current law and court decisions, including the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, cast doubt on whether waterboarding would be legal now. Hayden prohibited its use in CIA interrogations in 2006; it has not been used since he said.



The Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 prohibited cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment for all detainees in U.S. custody, including CIA prisoners.

In comments last week to the House Intelligence Committee, Hayden acknowledged for the first time publicly that the CIA has used waterboarding against three prisoners.

The technique is still officially in the CIA tool kit but it requires the consent of the attorney general and president on a case-by-case basis.

Hayden warned Congress that if the CIA were limited to military techniques, it would adhere to them without wavering, even if it meant failing to get urgent and crucial information. He contends the CIA has different interrogation needs than the military and requires more latitude.

"I guarantee you we will live within those confines of any statute of that nature. But you have to understand there would be no exceptions," he said.

Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, backed by Senate Republicans Olympia Snowe of Maine and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, inserted the provision in December into a bill providing guidelines for the running of U.S. intelligence agencies this year.

The 19 approved interrogation techniques in the military field manual include "good cop/bad cop," "false flag"—making prisoners think they are in the custody of another country—and the separation of a prisoner from other prisoners for up to 30 days at a time.

It prohibits military interrogators from hooding prisoners or putting duct tape across their eyes. They may not be stripped naked or forced to perform or mimic sexual acts. They may not be beaten, electrocuted, burned or otherwise physically hurt. They may not be subjected to hypothermia or mock executions. It does not allow food, water and medical treatment to be withheld, and dogs may not be used in any aspect of interrogation.

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Ok let me see if I can understand this, the "Enemy" can set us up in front of cameras for Propaganda purposes and then proceed to cut off our heads, and WE cant sprinkle water on someones face till they talk to get vital information out of them to prevent another September 11 attack? What is wrong with this picture? These congressional assholes think our image in the World needs to be improved? While we are at war? WE SHOULD BE FEARED WHILE WE ARE AT WAR!! The objective is to NOT want to attack America again for fear of what WILL happen to them. This is INSANE!! Chickenshit Liberals and RINOS!

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10 Comments:

Blogger DD2 aka Debonair Dude said...

So much for the Senate.......
I didn't expect anything else.
Thanks a lot Schumer!

February 14, 2008 6:11 AM  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

We need to waterboard the Senate. I know, take them out on a field trip in a big bus with Ted Kennedy driving. Then when they cross a bridge....well you know the rest of the story! LOL

February 14, 2008 8:17 AM  
Blogger Dan O. said...

You pretty much covered it, Marie.

They want us out of the war, but aren't willing to stay the f*@k out of the way and let what needs to be done, get done.

Morons.

February 14, 2008 9:19 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

For some reason blogger isnt emailing me when I have a comment. Hmm Weird.



DD,

I cant stand those Bas*****!

I am really starting to, and/or getting worse pissed off about this whole thing with the Soldiers, the Money for the Troops, Constantly fighting with the Liberal idiots that you have to beg and borrow from, get kicked in the teeth, told your losing before you even get to the War Zone, all these stements are getting to me.

God am I glad I have a blog for a frustration outlet.



Ken,

Wouldnt that be exciting! ;->



Dan,

Isnt that the truth. Geez these idiots make me mad.

February 14, 2008 10:21 AM  
Blogger Cargosquid said...

McCain actually voted AGAINST this bill. Go figure...

Anyway, if it saves the life of one soldier,

Red goes to positive and black goes to negative.....

February 14, 2008 11:55 AM  
Anonymous Seth said...

Spot on post!

The average resistance to water boarding is about 30 seconds (according to the results from U.S. intelligence operatives having the technique tested on themselves), and the recipient emerges without any permanent physical or mental impairment -- of the three terrorists who have been waterboarded, the longest duration, which achieved important results, was 1 1/2 minutes. And just think, this is ostensibly a one-time application!

Comparing this to the blood spattered wall in the torture room Marines found at al-Qaeda's Fallujah H.Q. when they took the city, I'd say water boarding should fall under the heading of "benevolent treatment".

Nothing like having a Congress that thinks with the same organ it uses to excrete waste materials.

February 14, 2008 12:39 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Cargo,

LMAO!

Red Positive, Black Negative haha




Seth,

I'm sure if Al-Qeada was on Steroids they would have voted differently.

How stupid can this democrat congress be?

February 14, 2008 4:56 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

I would have voted for waterboarding unlike my moderate wishy washy Senator Arlen Fencesitter. I would have also added to the bill, not only is it ok to waterboard but after they get the informantion and it's confirmed, you drown the bastard.

February 14, 2008 10:35 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Jenn,

Perfect haha :-)

If they could just do it without Congress knowing about it!

February 15, 2008 11:54 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

I know, I can't believe McCain is against torture...what a pansy!

Like he even knows what torture is...whatever!

February 18, 2008 2:56 PM  

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