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January 30, 2007

Feed Shark Turbo Tagger

Throw The 9-11 Commission Report In The Trash

The Reason I say this is because THE 9-11 Commission Report is NOT completely accurate, thank's to Sandy Berger. And nothing can be done about it because by Law the 9-11 Commission doesnt exist anymore! However I will post at the bottom of this story a link to what can legally happen to "The Burglar" should he FAIL his Lie Detector Test (Which we ALL know he will)


World Net Daily

On July 6, 2006, Stonebridge International, a global strategy firm, announced that it had added a new member to its high-profile, five-member advisory board – former Democrat Rep. Lee Hamilton.
True to form, the major media ignored the Hamilton appointment. They should not have. Hamilton, who had served as vice chairman of the 9/11 Commission, had just joined a firm headed by the man who had criminally undermined that very Commission, Stonebridge chairman and founder Samuel "Sandy" Berger.

In the words of a recent House Committee report, Berger had perpetrated "a disturbing breach of trust and protocol that compromised the nation's national security," a breach that had come at the expense of the 9/11 Commission's very mission. On July 6, 2006, Stonebridge International, a global strategy firm, announced that it had added a new member to its high-profile, five-member advisory board – former Democrat Rep. Lee Hamilton.

The unseemly nature of this new alliance apparently did not trouble Hamilton, Berger or the Washington media. By the spring of 2006, Berger felt sufficiently comfortable in his relationship with that media to execute a brazen, political drive-by on the one man who most seriously threatened the Clinton legacy and his own reputation, namely Rep. Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania.

Berger began his spring offensive in March 2006 with a fund-raiser for Weldon's opponent, Joe Sestak. Almost universally despised by his Naval colleagues, the former vice admiral was forced into retirement for what the U.S. Navy charitably called "poor command climate." Before being recruited to run for Congress, Sestak had not lived in Weldon's district for 30 years.

Although hosted by Berger, the fund-raiser was held at the law offices of Harold Ickes, a veteran Clinton fixer, and Janice Enright, the treasurer of Hillary Clinton's 2006 Senate campaign.

Before the campaign was through, Clinton insiders would enlist Stonebridge's director of communications to serve as Sestak's campaign spokesperson, summon former President Clinton to rally the troops, and finally call in the federales. Their motives were transparent even to the local media.

"A Sestak victory," observed suburban Philadelphia's Delco Times early in the campaign, "would muzzle a Republican congressman who blames Clinton for doing irreparable harm to America's national security during the 1990s."

As the No. 2 Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, Weldon had not only exposed the Clinton administration's lethal "Able Danger" breakdown, but he had also catalogued the CIA's failures before Sept. 11 in his book "Countdown to Terror." And he wasn't stopping there.

In late July 2006, I accompanied Mike and Joan Wire to visit Weldon in his D.C. office. The Wires, who live in suburban Philadelphia, had arranged the interview.

I happened to be in New Jersey at the time so we drove down together. The interview lasted two and a half hours and ended only because I had to leave.

Mike Wire just happened to be the most critical of the 270 eyewitnesses to an apparent missile strike on TWA Flight 800 on July 17, 1996. As is well enough known, the government had argued that a mechanical failure brought down the plane.

To make the story work, however, the FBI and/or the CIA had to manufacture from whole cloth a second interview with Wire that fit their invented scenario.

This was criminal obstruction, and it is easily verified.

To get some sense of what Wire and others actually witnessed, I have put two relevant sections of the video "Silenced" on YouTube. The skeptical reader would do well to review these clips: Part 1

and Part 2.

As late as 2001, I was as skeptical about TWA Flight 800 as the next guy. It was then that I met James and Elizabeth Sanders. The Sanders and TWA Capt. Terrel Stacey had been arrested in 1997 and charged with conspiracy.

An investigative reporter, Sanders was doing the job the major media had chosen not to do. Elizabeth, a TWA trainer, had introduced her husband to Stacey, then working inside the investigation; nothing more.

Before committing to co-produce "Silenced," I had flown to Ft. Lauderdale, where the Sanders were living, and spent three days reviewing their evidence and assessing their character. As I learned, the government arrested the three of them – and convicted the Sanderses – only because they had been closing in on the truth.

When the Wires and I met with Weldon and his aide Russ Caso, we showed them sections from "Silenced," but we were not revealing anything they did not know or at least suspect. What most intrigued Weldon was the cast of characters involved in the misdirection of the TWA Flight 800 investigation. Many of those characters were working to unseat him.

Sandy Berger: Col. Buzz Patterson, who carried the nuclear football the summer of 1996, identifies then Deputy National Security Adviser Berger as the one person holed up in the family quarters with the president on the night of July 17, 1996. In addition to his other services, Berger donated $1,000 to the Sestak campaign. Sestak was the only congressional candidate to whom Berger gave money.

Tony Lake: As national security adviser, Lake was Berger's immediate boss. Although he stayed out of the family quarters on July 17, he, too, was in the loop that night. At 3 a.m. he received a call from the president asking that he "dust off the contingency plans." Lake donated $500 to Sestak. It was his only federal donation in 2006.

Richard Clarke: The anti-terror honcho takes credit for discovering the exploding fuel tank theory that provided a mechanical explanation, however contrived, for TWA Flight 800's demise. He is likely also responsible for bringing the FBI and CIA together to create the "zoom-climb" animation seen in the YouTube clip, which was used to discredit the eyewitnesses. Clarke donated $2,100 to Sestak. It was the only federal donation he made in 2006.

John Deutch: Deutch was serving as CIA director the night TWA Flight 800 went down. Several months later, in a scandal that foreshadowed Berger's own, Deutch was discovered to have loaded classified documents onto to his personal computer and taken them home. His motives were never made clear. He eventually signed a plea agreement and agreed to pay a $5,000 fine only to be pardoned the next day by President Clinton. Deutch donated $500 to Sestak, one of of only two congressional candidates he supported in 2006.

Mary O. McCarthy: In 1996, McCarthy, a CIA analyst, served as an intelligence officer on the National Security Council. In 1998, Berger appointed her as special assistant to the president. In 2006, the CIA fired her for allegedly leaking secret information about overseas prisons to the Washington Post. The only federal candidate to whom she donated in 2006 was Joe Sestak. To give some sense of the politicized nature of the CIA, McCarthy donated $2,000 to John Kerry in 2004.

Jamie Gorelick: Gorelick does not have the excuse of knowing Sestak from his work on the National Security Council. Gorelick served as deputy attorney general in the Justice Department. Still she donated $3,000 to the Sestak campaign, the most she gave to any candidate in 2006.

Gorelick, of course, was one of five Democrats appointed to the 9/11 Commission – and for no more obvious reason than her stake in keeping talk of TWA Flight 800 out of the commission room.

On Aug. 22, 1996, the politically reliable Gorelick met with the FBI brass and directed their efforts away from any serious terror or missile leads. From this point on, the FBI was tasked with finding an alternative explanation for the explosive residue found throughout the plane and duly reported to the New York Times for the previous month.

This FBI search culminated in an exculpatory tale of a sloppy dog-training exercise aboard the Flight 800 plane five weeks before the crash. Though easily disproved, the story satisfied a painfully incurious media.

Unfortunately for America, by suppressing talk of TWA Flight 800, the Clinton administration had to suppress talk of a very real terror plot against the United States that culminated in the events of Sept. 11.

In the way of background, in January 1995, the Philippine police shared with the FBI detailed plans for an aerial terrorist assault on the United States. Those plans called for the use of hijacked airliners and/or explosives-filled private aircraft as flying bombs to attack the United States.

The architect of those plans was Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the first World Trade Center bombing and a cohort of 9-11 chief strategist Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, his alleged uncle.

Richard Clarke obviously took Yousef's planes-as-bombs plots seriously. In planning security for the Atlanta Olympics in 1996, Clarke warned of the possibility of terrorists hijacking a 747 and flying it into a packed Olympic stadium.

The U.S. Navy apparently took Yousef's plans seriously as well. On July 17, 1996, National Liberation Day in Saddam's Iraq and two days before the start of the Atlanta Olympics, a small fleet of ships and subs, some perhaps NATO, cruised off the coast of Long Island, locked and loaded.

One of two things happened next: Either Navy missiles intercepted a terrorist plane and inadvertently took out TWA Flight 800 in the process; or, more likely, while practicing to intercept a terrorist plane in the kind of crowded air corridor where such an attack would likely occur, Navy missiles accidentally destroyed the 747.

In either case, the U.S. Navy did not have the will or the wherewithal to conceal this on its own. That decision would have been made in the family quarters of the White House in the early morning hours of July 18.

Those few subordinates in the know would have been told that the decision was made for reasons of national security. A more urgent reason, of course, was to secure Clinton's re-election a few months hence.

The evidence for Navy involvement has been greatly enhanced by the research of Capt. Ray Lahr on the west coast and the legal work in the federal courts by his counsel, John Clarke. Highly useful, too, has been a new and stunningly sophisticated crash analysis drafted by an apparent insider (or insiders), whose identity remains stubbornly unknown.

As a result of Lahr's work in particular, the NTSB and FBI have quietly abandoned the CIA zoom-climb scenario shown in the YouTube clip and rely now only on a quiescent media to ignore the un-rebutted testimony of some 270 eyewitnesses to a missile strike.

In the summer of 1996, President Clinton had a keen interest in the planes-as-bombs plot as well. Soon after the destruction of TWA Flight 800, Col. Buzz Patterson was returning a daily intelligence update from the Oval Office to the National Security Council when he "keyed on a reference to a plot to use commercial airliners as weapons."

"I can state for a fact that this information was circulated within the U.S. intelligence community," Patterson writes, "and that in late 1996 the president was aware of it." The president's handwritten comments on the documents verified the same.

Most likely to keep the subject of TWA Flight 800 off the table, all talk of planes as bombs ended in the summer of 1996. Incoming National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice was not even warned about the possibility. Richard Clarke verified as much when he testified before the 9/11 Commission.

"Knowledge about al-Qaida having thought of using aircraft as weapons," admitted Clarke, was "5-years, 6-years old." He asked that intelligence analysts "be forgiven for not thinking about it given the fact that they hadn't seen a lot in the five or six years intervening about it."

As to President Clinton's legacy-killing notes on the Yousef plot documents, they obviously did not find their way to the 9/11 Commission. Not surprisingly, according to the National Archives staff, "Berger was especially interested in White House terrorism adviser Richard Clarke's personal office files." Berger reviewed these and "original NSC numbered documents" on his first visit to the Archives.

The House report noted, "Had Berger seen 'a smoking gun' or other documents he did not want brought to an investigatory panel's attention, he could have removed it on this visit."

When the Wires and I left Weldon in July 2006, he was on his way to review the Berger evidence. Weldon was the one man in Washington willing and able to put all the pieces together of what loomed as the most serious scandal in American political history. But this was not to be. The Clintons and their cronies had other plans.

During the now legendary Chris Wallace interview with President Clinton in late September 2006 on Fox News, the nation saw just how potent were the guns aimed at Weldon.

"A three-star admiral," Clinton announced out of nowhere, "who was on my National Security Council staff, who also fought terror, by the way, is running for the seat of Curt Weldon in Pennsylvania." He did not even mention Sestak by name. He may not have known it. Other than President Bush, Clinton mentioned no other Republican than Weldon.

It is not easy to take out a popular 10-term congressman. Weldon's enemies, however, had a nasty little ace up their sleeves. A week after President Clinton visited Weldon's district to fire up the troops, the McClatchy Newspapers broke a story attributed to two anonymous sources, namely that Weldon had "traded his political influence for lucrative lobbying and consulting contracts for his daughter."

Alleging a need to act quickly because of the leak, the FBI raided the homes of Weldon's daughter and a friend on Monday, Oct. 16. By noon of that same day, a group of nearly 20 Democrat protesters were milling outside Weldon's district office in Upper Darby, carrying matching signs that read "Caught Red-Handed." The story received a great deal of unreflective attention from a media desperate for a Democrat win, and Weldon went down to defeat.

The move against Weldon was naturally attributed to the Bush Justice Department. As the Berger case proved, however, there are powerful forces operating in the Justice Department and FBI that seem to have no greater goal than protecting the Clinton legacy and advancing the Democrat agenda. The idea that Karl Rove somehow orchestrated the Weldon hit makes sense only in the nether reaches of the liberal blogosphere.

Sometimes, as in the case of Watergate, conspiracy is not a theory. It's a crime. Still, the major media will use the "conspiracy theory" mantra as an excuse to ignore this story.

To this point, the "respectable" conservative media have been intimidated into following their lead. It is past time for those media to show some sand.
I think the answer to what Sandy "Burglar" STOLE from the National Archives is becoming more apparent with or without a Lie Detector Test. I STILL WANT ONE, but since this all happened, and it's been so long, who is to say that "The Burglar" hasnt been taught by now how to pass a Lie Detector Test? However THIS Justice Department will make sure the Lie Detector Test is conducted by an FBI agent trained in spotting when someone is Lying! If he was ignorant enough to steal classified documents from the archives he may be such a nitwit that all the training in the world might not help his dumbass pass the test. Burglar also has to take an oath to tell the truth before taking the lie detector test, and if he fails, that means he lied to a Federal Officer and it then becomes Perjury. When Burglar got his little slap on the wrist, one of the conditions was he HAD to take a Lie Detector Test. Also if he fails the test, not only has he committed perjury, but that means the hunt for the documents he stole will start again which could land him in bigger trouble.

Here is a Video Link from Fox News John Gibson and Judge Andrew Napolitano discussing the consequences Berger faces is he fails the Lie Detector Test:


I dont know about the rest of you, but I am clearly beginning to see that Burglar stole classified documents about [Ramzi Yousef "Planes-As-Bombs"] documents, and alot of Information reguarding TWA Flight 800 that just happened to [Blow Up] in Mid Air without reporting any mechanical difficulties to Air Traffic Control.

In essence he was either trying to protect President Clinton's "So called Legacy", or to cover his own ass, or both. And if Condi Rice was NEVER informed about any of this upon entering her position as National Security Adviser that explains why the Bush administration was unaware of most of this and had NO time to act. What Sandy Berger did when he stole those documents, was a Threat To Our National Security, by not informimg Condi Rice about any of this when entering office left our Country and our Citizens vulnerable for an attack which cost thousands of lives NEEDLESSLY, fixed it to where it appeared to have happened on "Bush's Watch", basically layed the whole mess in President Bush's lap, and layed the foundation for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to be attacked.

So the 9-11 Commission NEVER had all the documents on which to draw a complete and accurate conclusion, thier recommendations (Some of them) should have been added to or changed, most of the conclusions they did come to were distorted because they didnt have ALL the documentation needed to form a correct conclusion, and the ones they did come to may well be wrong! So the 9-11 Commission report pretty much needs to hit the trash can thanks to Sandy Berger.

Presidents are suppose to leave the Country in better shape than they found it, President Clinton left us with the biggest disaster this Country has EVER seen. And the sickening thing is....IT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED!!!!

I am urging everyone to call the Department of Justice or email them and ask them WHEN IS SANDY BERGER COMMING IN FOR HIS LIE DETECTOR TEST???

DOJ email:

Snail Mail:
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

Department of Justice Main Switchboard - 202-514-2000
Office of the Attorney General - 202-353-1555

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Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Clinton new his butt was in the ringer when the 9/11 report would become public so he ordered Burglar to get the documents that proved how lax he was especially when it came to getting Bin Laden. Getting him now would be nothing more than a moral booster but during the Clinton debacle years it definatly would have prevented 9/11.

Burgale stole and destroyed national security documents and used the oops I forgot lame excuse and has been given a slap on the wrist. Everyone invoved including Bubba should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law with 9/11 familes as jurors!

January 31, 2007 8:07 AM  
Blogger J_G said...

I have to make this short this morning Marie but let me say this; The things you have written about probably have a great deal of truth to them but evil forces of the clintontonians were able to exploit this program of deceipt because the Bush administration did cover the bases and neither did the Republicans in Congress.

Republicans in Congress were far too happy to become democrats and get fat, lazy and careless all the while the clintonians were able to cover their tracks of their mistaken and criminally negligent policies dealing with those that would destroy us.

Mrs. Green it will be up to you to find your own links if you are interested in learning what happenes in the real world I am not providing any loinks because it is not necessary to have to always back up what I say, I have enough credibility to not have rely on such childish measures.

January 31, 2007 8:09 AM  
Anonymous Night Rider said...

Hi Marie,

While I agree with The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth & J_G I do not think that anything will become of it because of the Main Stream Media is never interested in seeing to it that the Clintonians get in any kind of trouble so what would they do if evidence does show that the Clinton's did actually cover up and that Sandy Burglar was involved, the Main Stream Media will do as they always do by just ignoring it.

January 31, 2007 9:47 AM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Wow weren't kidding about the post! Lol...

Unfortunately, I'm heading for work, so I'll have to read more thoroughly when I get back home tonight. I only skimmed.

I for one, was baffled months ago by the lack of curiosity in the news media to know what secrets Berger deemed it so important to see fit to steal and destroy.

January 31, 2007 1:39 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

The liberal press is more interested in printing the story about the horse Barbaro that was just euthanized at the New Bolton center just a couple of miles from my here. There is no interest in reporting how the the gang that couldn't shoot straight flubbed national security and created the portal for 9/11 to happen.

The 9/11 commission and the Iraq Surrender Committee were nothing more than window dressings for those in Washington unwilling to stand up and face the truth just like the Warren commission was. Once again political expendiency rules when the relentless pursuit of the truth ought to be the case.

January 31, 2007 3:45 PM  
Anonymous Mrs. Green said...

Mrs. Green it will be up to you to find your own links if you are interested in learning what happenes in the real world I am not providing any loinks because it is not necessary to have to always back up what I say, I have enough credibility to not have rely on such childish measures.--JG

If those are your rules, then I will also not have to back up what I post.

Then this will become a she said/she said comments board.

You are being unAmerican and incredibly partisan to characterize the Clintons as evil forces.

Talk about the gang that couldn't shoot straight. The Bush administration has had 6 years of control of all the systems in government and four of those years to do whatever they wanted to do to win in Iraq. Who could stop them? There was no Congressional oversight on anything they've done in the war.

And they bungled it. They couldn't win against a third world country that had no weapons of mass destruction to use against us.

Talk about incompetence and a gang that couldn't shoot straight.

What is happening now is what matters.

Clinton had to deal with a Republican Congress. Bush had all the government at his bidding to do whatever he wanted.

Explain his incompentence, please.

January 31, 2007 5:02 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

It's all apparent to the rest of us the imcompetence of the gang that couldn't shoot straight. When they have send in the former national security advisor to steal documents to preserve a legacy then the people need to know the truth of what was in those documents and why the clintonians needed to destroy them.

If you feel you must provide links to back up all of your statements Mrs. Green feel free to do so. I do not feel the need, unlike liberals or democrats I do not suffer from the feeling of lack of credibility.

January 31, 2007 5:47 PM  
Anonymous Seth said...

Intense post, Marie!

I have long held that the Clintons are a Kriminal Kouple, but this goes way beyond crime, it is pure treason, and it makes anything Nixon might have been accused of look like littering.

It's beyond belief how far today's Democrats will go.

Oh, uh, Mrs. Green. If Bush had been blessed with a Democratic Party and media that were patriotic and weren't going hell-bent-for-leather to obstruct him and undermine the Iraq campaign at every turn, we would probably have finished up there some time ago, with a lot less casualties.

It really does require an awful lot of cheek to sabotage someone's efforts and then accuse him of failure.

February 01, 2007 9:09 AM  
Anonymous Mrs. Green said...

From FOX news:

Two senior Iraqi generals are being questioned in connection with last week's attack in Karbala that left five U.S. soldiers dead, military officials told FOX News Thursday.

Military officials also said the level of sophistication of the attack — where militants posed as U.S. soldiers to pass a number of security checkpoints — suggested possible Iranian involvement.

The assault was carried out by nine to 12 militants wearing new U.S. military fatigues and traveling in black GMC Suburban vehicles — the type used by U.S. government convoys. U.S. officials said the imposters had American weapons and spoke English.

The raid, as explained by Iraqi and American officials, began after nightfall at about 6 p.m. on Jan. 20, while American military officers were meeting with their Iraqi counterparts on the main floor of the Provisional Joint Coordination Center (PJCC) in Karbala.

The Pentagon said the investigation into the attack is ongoing and several Iraqis have been detained for questioning.

Because high-level generals were possibly involved, the Pentagon said, it raises questions about the loyalty and trustworthiness of Iraqi military officers at the highest levels.


Your comment would be comical if it weren't about such a tragic situation. I suppose you'll try to blame these soldiers deaths on the Democrats. Why don't you grow up and face the fact that it is Bush and his failed policies that are responsible for the mess in Iraq. Bush sabotaged himself by being incompetent.

Did I hear Marie say on another post "Way to Go, Iraqi Army!"?

They're killing our soldiers!

February 01, 2007 11:17 AM  
Blogger J_G said...

Mrs Green said...They're killing our soldiers!

Yes they are Mrs. Green, yes they are. You may thank in large proportion their willing accomplices in the libral press and demadumb party Headquarters. Why do you not believe the terrorists celebrated when when the demadumbs won their very slim majority in congress. They understood that they had done their job in gettting a friendly party elected by using our own Bush hating media.

Now the terrorists are emboldened by a political party in this nation that has it's political future tied to the defeat of our military and our President. What a fine bunch of individuals they are, especially the two traitorous men that call themselves Senators from the State of Massachusetts. Now there are two fine examples of the "loyal" opposition. Both of them should be hung.

February 01, 2007 1:15 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I totally agree!

February 01, 2007 4:06 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I agree also, if these documents were never stolen in the first place, the 9-11 commission would have had all the information to make a more informed conclusion, Bush would have been aware of this entering office had Sandy Berger informed Condi Rice (Which he didnt) about any of this instead of trying to protect his and Clinton's asses, 9-11 would NEVER have happened!

February 01, 2007 4:11 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Well I feel better now that Fox News has picked up on this and John Gibson on the "Big Story" isnt going to let this go either until Sandy Berger get's that Lie Dectector Test!

With this being brought out by World Net Daily, and Fox News, and if we all email and call the Justice Dept., it's only a matter of time before the MSM will HAVE to pick up on this!

February 01, 2007 4:16 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


It's all comming together now isnt it? :-)

February 01, 2007 4:17 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


And the Democrats want Hillary for President?

A repeat performance of this crap?

I dont think so!

February 01, 2007 4:19 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Mrs Green,

We will alway's have to root out the bad apples in the barrel, but the point you should have made in that post was THEY WERE CAUGHT!

Damn Straight you heardme say "Way to go Iraqi Army"!

Those were the good apples in the barrel that did NOT run and took the fight to the enemy!

Yes some bad apples are killing our soldiers and we will keep eliminating them until there are NO more of them.



February 01, 2007 4:24 PM  
Blogger RJay said...

About Flight 800
The videos are very interesting.
They must have been intriguing to Nelson DeMille when He wrote the novel "Night Fall" which is a work of fiction, but right on.

On July 17, 1996, TWA Flight 800 exploded off the coast of Long Island. Five years later, the crash has been attributed to a mechanical malfunction. But for John Corey and his wife Kate Mayfield, both members of the elite Anti-Terrorist Task Force, the case is not closed.

Something was rising off the water, and it took him a second to recognize it as a streak of incandescent reddish-orange fire trailing a plume of white smoke. "What the hell...?" It looked like a skyrocket left over from the Fourth of July, but it was huge, too huge - and it was coming off the water.

They both watched as it rose quickly, gathering speed as it ascended into the sky. It seemed to zigzag, then turn.

Suddenly, a flash of light appeared in the sky, followed by a huge fireball. They scrambled to their feet and stared transfixed as pieces of fiery debris began raining down from the point of the explosion. About a half-minute later, the sound of the two explosions in quick succession rolled across the water and filled the air around them, causing them to instinctively flinch. Then, silence. More excerpt Here

You can find the book on, any good used book store or your local library - where I found it.

February 01, 2007 9:34 PM  
Blogger wfzimmerman said...

For an unsympathetic but deeply factual view on Sandy Berger's malfeasance, see

SANDY BERGER SHOULD BE IN JAIL (Nimble Books, January 2007)

February 05, 2007 11:37 AM  
Blogger A.C. McCloud said...

Hi Marie,
I've got a similar post. Here's my question to those who doubt flight 800 was shot down: why haven't the airlines or FAA addressed this problem yet more than 10 years down the line?

That's the best evidence there is no problem and the plane was shot down by either Navy or terrorists. Clarke was involved, btw, in the "zoom climb" cartoon made by the CIA--who had no business being involved in a civil crash, that's NTSB jurisdiction.

To think Berger was looking for something to do with the Millennium plot is absurd, since it was about the only terrorism success Clinton had (by luck). I say hook him up and see what happens.

February 06, 2007 5:56 PM  

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