Well I'll Be
He did it again!!
Al Gore
Well I just dont know anymore. He is so steemed that he isnt President he is not all there. Read Full Story Here Can you imagine if he was? God help us all. But to go off shore and out of the bounds of the United States and talk crap is just getting sickening to most people. And Gore has now put himself in the ranks of Jimmy Carter, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, Sean Penn, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Jane Fonda and several other traitors who I still think need to be tried for treason!
Al Gore
Well I just dont know anymore. He is so steemed that he isnt President he is not all there. Read Full Story Here Can you imagine if he was? God help us all. But to go off shore and out of the bounds of the United States and talk crap is just getting sickening to most people. And Gore has now put himself in the ranks of Jimmy Carter, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, Sean Penn, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Jane Fonda and several other traitors who I still think need to be tried for treason!
posted by Marie's Two Cents | 7:44 PM
18 Comments:
Even if Gore, as you assert, has joined the ranks of Carter, Moore, Kerry and Kennedy, he's at least in the company of politicians who are not under criminal indictment or criminal invesigation.
I think you ought to be thinking of those Republicans in leadership roles who are under criminal investigtion and criminal indictment to really feel sickened.
Tom DeLay, Scooter Libby, David Savafian, Jack Abramoff, Duke Cunningham, Michael Scanlon, Bill Frist, Karl Rove.
These are all politicians close to the president and vice president and all under criminal indictment or investigation.
There's where the real shame and embarrassment is.
What sickens me isnt the fact that no one you mentioned has been convicted of anything, but that no one I mentioned has been either!
And Clinton was not convicted either. But that didn't stop the Goopers from demonizing him and making him out to be the second coming of Satan. He was impeached, BUT NOT CONVICTED.
You apparently don't like the taste of your own hypocrisy.
60% of the population agree with me.
Bush is a very unpopular president.
39% approval.
Oh Yes I forgot about dear Mr. Clinton. But then again I wasnt talking about him.
He hasnt disgraced us with the exception of all that nasty hanky panky and all, but he hasnt gone to another country and talked crap about this one, or it's leaders as far as I know.
As far as hypocricy goes it must be nice to hide under the cover of anonymous, it suits those of you who just lurk around blogs and just hope the person that owns the blog doesnt turn on that setting that says "This Blog does not allow anonymous comments" :-)
Oh by the way if polls were accurate, Kerry would be President! So help us all.
Try again, your doing great slugger!!
You want to go there, anonymous? OK, let's take a look at the scoreboard:
- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of imprisonments: 14
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pled the 5th Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 124
- As of June 2000, the Justice Department listed 25 people indicted and 19 convicted because of the 1996 Clinton-Gore fundraising scandals.
- According to the House Committee on Government Reform in September 2000, 79 House and Senate witnesses asserted the Fifth Amendment in the course of investigations into Gore's last fundraising campaign. [These figures are included in the larger figures elsewhere].
-James Riady entered a plea agreement to pay an $8.5 million fine for campaign finance crimes. This was a record under campaign finance laws.
Number of actual convictions of Clinton associates:
Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery(4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts(1), illegal campaign contributions(5), money laundering (6). Details here.
Now, how many of President Bush's associates have been convicted again?
Gore lost. Get over it.
Wow! That's some list! Glad to know someone has been keeping track. And you didnt even bring up the "Clinton hit list" all those ahem "Accidental" deaths and all under Clinton.
Good one Uncle :-)
Wow! Impressive work uncle pavian.
But all those Clinton bad guys are smal peanuts compared with the indictments of the Big, Big Cahoonas in the Bush Administration: DeLay, Libby, Abramoff, Savafian, Cunningham.
And the ones under investigation are Big Cheeses, too:
Frist and Rove. Any closer and we'd be right behind the desk in the Oval Office.
Remember the Dems don't have control of either house, so they can't get investigations going the way the Repubs did during Clinton's years. That makes the playing field different.
However, when we get the investigations going, uncle p, I'm certain they will bury those Clinton stats you found. Stick around and see.
And let's hope for Cheney's sake that Mr. Whittington doesn't die. Shades of Chappaquiddik?????
Marie,
Give me solid evidence. Real evidence of anyone the Clinton murdered while they were in office.
There is none. And you know it.
Everyone knows about that woman Bush had murdered after he forced her to have an abortion, right?
See?
I can play your silly game, ahem, too.
Interesting that you should bring up Chappaquiddick, anonymous. I'm curious as to what the liberal understanding of that event was and how it informs our understanding of the recent events involving the Vice President.
Oh, I notice that you didn't mention anyone from the Bush Administration who has been convicted of any crime. In fact, of the names you mentioned, only two were Administration officials, neither of whom has been convicted, but neither of whom remain on the job, while two others are current or former members of Congress and the fifth was a lobbyist who was giving money to members of both parties.
Unless you're suggesting that the presumption of innocence applies only to Democrats, you're not going to win on this one.
uncle pavian said:
while two others are current or former members of Congress and the fifth was a lobbyist who was giving money to members of both parties.
Sorry, uncle p. You're dead wrong on this. Jack Abramoff gave no money to any Democrat. None.
If you have evidence to contradict this, produce it. You won't find it because there is none. This is one of your false Republican talking points to slime Dems in this Republican Scandal.
Not one Democrat got money from Abramoff. Not one.
Jack Abramoff gave money to Republicans.
He's Bush's and your scumbag.
Sorry Anon, I wish you really keep up..
Anonymous said:
Sorry, uncle p. You're dead wrong on this. Jack Abramoff gave no money to any Democrat. None.
Not one Democrat got money from Abramoff. Not one.
Well get ready for a shock Anon!
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By JOHN SOLOMON and SHARON THEIMER
Associated Press Writers
WASHINGTON
Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid wrote at least four letters helpful to Indian tribes represented by Jack Abramoff, and the senator's staff regularly had contact with the disgraced lobbyist's team about legislation affecting other clients.
The activities _ detailed in billing records and correspondence obtained by The Associated Press _ are far more extensive than previously disclosed. They occurred over three years as Reid collected nearly $68,000 in donations from Abramoff's firm, lobbying partners and clients.
Reid's office acknowledged Thursday having "routine contacts" with Abramoff's lobbying partners and intervening on some government matters _ such as blocking some tribal casinos _ in ways Abramoff's clients might have deemed helpful. But it said none of his actions were affected by donations or done for Abramoff.
"All the actions that Senator Reid took were consistent with his long- held beliefs, such as not letting tribal casinos expand beyond reservations, and were taken to defend the interests of Nevada constituents," spokesman Jim Manley said.
Reid, D-Nev., has led the Democratic Party's attacks portraying Abramoff's lobbying and fundraising as a Republican scandal.
But Abramoff's records show his lobbying partners billed for nearly two dozen phone contacts or meetings with Reid's office in 2001 alone.
Most were to discuss Democratic legislation that would have applied the U.S. minimum wage to the Northern Mariana Islands, a U.S. territory and Abramoff client, but would have given the islands a temporary break on the wage rate, the billing records show.
Reid also intervened on government matters at least five times in ways helpful to Abramoff's tribal clients, once opposing legislation on the Senate floor and four times sending letters pressing the Bush administration on tribal issues. Reid collected donations around the time of each action.
Ethics rules require senators to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest in collecting contributions around the times they take official acts benefiting donors.
Abramoff's firm also hired one of Reid's top legislative aides as a lobbyist. The aide later helped throw a fundraiser for Reid at Abramoff's firm that raised donations from several of his lobbying partners.
And Reid's longtime chief of staff accepted a free trip to Malaysia arranged by a consulting firm connected to Abramoff that recently has gained attention in the influence-peddling investigation that has gripped the Capitol.
Abramoff has pleaded guilty in a fraud and bribery case and is now helping prosecutors investigate the conduct of lawmakers, congressional aides and administration officials his team used to lobby.
Abramoff spokesman Andrew Blum declined to comment on the Reid contacts.
Reid has assailed Republicans' ties to Abramoff while refusing to return any of his own donations. He argues there's no need to return the money.
"Senator Reid never met Jack Abramoff and never has taken contributions from him, and efforts to drag him into this are going to fail," Manley said. "Abramoff is a convicted felon and no one has suggested the other partners we might have dealt with have done anything impermissible."
While Abramoff never directly donated to Reid, the lobbyist did instruct one tribe, the Coushattas, to send $5,000 to Reid's tax- exempt political group, the Searchlight Leadership Fund, in 2002. About the same time, Reid sent a letter to the Interior Department helpful to the tribe, records show.
Abramoff sent a list to the tribe entitled "Coushatta Requests" recommending donations to campaigns or groups for 50 lawmakers he claimed were helpful to the tribe. Alongside Reid's name, Abramoff wrote, "5,000 (Searchlight Leadership Fund) Senate Majority Whip."
Following a pattern seen with Abramoff and Republicans, Abramoff's Democratic team members often delivered donations to Reid close to key events.
Reid himself, along his Senate counsel Jim Ryan, met with Abramoff deputy Ronald Platt on June 5, 2001, "to discuss timing on minimum wage bill" that affected the Marianas, according to a bill that Greenberg Traurig, Abramoff's firm, sent the Marianas.
Three weeks before the meeting, Greenberg Traurig's political action committee donated $1,000 to Reid's Senate re-election committee. Three weeks after the meeting, Platt himself donated $1,000 to Reid.
Manley said Reid's official calendar doesn't list a meeting on June 5, with Platt, but he also said he couldn't say for sure the contact didn't occur. Manley confirmed Platt had regular contacts with Reid's office, calling them part of the "routine checking in" by lobbyists who work Capitol Hill.
As for the timing of donations, Manley said, "There is no connection. This is just a typical part of lawful fundraising."
The Marianas, U.S. territorial islands in the Pacific Ocean, were one of Abramoff's highest-paying clients and were trying to keep their textile industry exempt from most U.S. laws on immigration, labor and pay, including the minimum wage. Many Democrats have long accused the islands of running garment sweatshops.
The islands in 2001 had their own minimum wage of $3.05 an hour, and were exempt from the U.S. minimum of $5.15.
Republicans were intent on protecting the Marianas' exemption. Democrats, led by Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts and Rep. George Miller of California, wanted the Marianas to be covered by the U.S. minimum and crafted a compromise.
In February 2001, Kennedy introduced a bill that would have raised the U.S. hourly minimum to $6.65 and would have covered the Marianas. The legislation, which eventually failed, would have given the islands an initial break by setting its minimum at just $3.55 _ nearly $3 lower than any other territory or state _ and then gradually increasing it.
Within a month, Platt began billing for routine contacts and meetings with Reid's staff, starting with a March 26, 2001, contact with Reid chief of staff Susan McCue to "discuss timing and status of minimum wage legislation," the billing records say.
In all, Platt and a fellow lobbyist reported 21 contacts in 2001 with Reid's office, mostly with McCue and Ryan.
One of the Marianas contacts, listed for May 30, 2001, was with Edward Ayoob, Reid's legislative counsel. Within a year, Ayoob had left Reid's office to work for Abramoff's firm, registering specifically to lobby for the islands as well as several tribes. Manley confirmed Ayoob had subsequent lobbying contacts with Reid's office.
Manley cast doubt on some of the contacts recorded in the billing records, saying McCue was out of Washington for a couple of the dates. But he acknowledged the contacts could have occurred by cell phone.
In January 2002, McCue took a free trip, valued at $7,000, to Malaysia with several other congressional aides. The trip, cleared by Senate ethics officials, was underwritten by the U.S. Malaysia Exchange Association, a group trying to foster better relations between the United States and Malaysia.
The trips were part of a broader lobbying strategy by Malaysia, which consulted with Abramoff and paid $300,000 to a company connected to him, according to documents released by Senate investigators. The arrangements included a trip by then-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and his wife to Malaysia in October 2001.
While Abramoff worked behind the scenes, the Alexander Strategy Group run by two former DeLay aides, Ed Buckham and Tony Rudy, publicly registered to lobby for the U.S. Malaysia Exchange Association.
Rudy, who was cited in Abramoff's court case, had worked temporarily for Abramoff before joining Buckham at Alexander Strategy, and the three men were friendly. In January 2002, Alexander Strategy arranged two congressional trips to Malaysia underwritten by the association.
One trip took a delegation of Republican congressmen. A Democratic consultant hired by Alexander Strategy, former Clinton White House aide Joel Johnson, invited McCue and went on the second trip with congressional staffers.
Johnson said he invited McCue on behalf of Alexander Strategy and went on the trip with her but said he knew of no connections to Abramoff. "My interest was in getting Democrats to travel to the country and to learn more about Malaysia," Johnson said.
Reid intervened on other matters.
On March 5, 2002, he sent a letter to the Interior Department pressing the agency to reject a proposed casino by the Jena band of Choctaw Indians in Louisiana. Fellow Nevada Sen. John Ensign, a Republican, also signed.
The Jena's proposed casino would have rivaled one already in operation in Louisiana run by the Coushattas, and Abramoff was lobbying to block the Jena. The day after Reid's letter, the Coushattas wrote a $5,000 check to Reid's Searchlight group at Abramoff's suggestion.
Reid and Ensign recently wrote the Senate Ethics Committee to say their letter had nothing to do with Abramoff or the donation and instead reflected their interest in protecting Las Vegas' gambling establishments.
"As senators for the state with the largest nontribal gaming industry in the nation, we have long opposed the growth of off-reservation tribal gaming throughout the United States," Ensign and Reid wrote. Reid authored the law legalizing casinos on reservations, and has long argued it does not allow tribal gambling off reservations.
On Nov. 8, 2002, the Nevada Democrat signed a letter with California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein urging Interior Secretary Gale Norton to reject a proposal by the Cuyapaipe Band of Mission Indians to convert land for a health clinic into a casino in southern California.
The casino would have competed with the Palm Springs gambling establishment run by the Agua Caliente, one of Abramoff's tribes.
Two weeks later, Reid went to the Senate floor to oppose fellow Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow's effort to win congressional approval for a Michigan casino for the Bay Mills Indians, which would have rivaled one already operating by the Saginaw Chippewa represented by Abramoff.
"The legislation is fundamentally flawed," Reid argued, successfully leading the opposition to Stabenow's proposal.
The next month, Reid joined six other Democratic senators in asking President Bush in mid-December 2002 to spend an additional $30 million for Indian school construction. Several Abramoff tribes, including the Saginaw and the Mississippi Choctaw, were seeking federal money for school building.
Six weeks after that letter, three Abramoff partners _ including Platt and Ayoob _ donated a total of $4,000 to Reid's Senate re-election campaign. Later in 2003, the Agua Caliente contributed $13,500 to Reid's political groups while the Saginaw chipped in $9,000.
Reid sent a fourth letter on April 30, 2003, joining Ensign a second time to urge Interior to reject the Jena casino.
Two months later, Abramoff's firm threw a fundraiser for Reid at its Washington office that netted the Nevada senator several more donations from Greenberg Traurig lobbyists and their spouses. Ayoob was instrumental in staging the event, Reid's office said.
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I think that clears up Harry Reid Your Democrat leader DID take money from Abromoff. Amongst others in your party. Get your facts straight before you go up against me!
Oops I forgot, Harry Reid is up to his eyeballs in the Abramoff scandal, And refuses to give back the money he got from Abramoff!!!
Why do you think Harry Reid your "Minority Whip" isnt talking about this anymore Anon?
Get your facts straight!
Ok, anonymous. Let's take a look:
"Republicans Weren't The Only Guests In The Skybox: Senator Byron L. Dorgan (D-N.D.), Now The Top Democrat On The Indian Affairs Panel, Held A Fund-Raiser In The Abramoff-Controlled MCI Center Skybox In 2001." (Eamon Javers and Lee Walczak, "'Fear And Loathing' Among The GOP," BusinessWeek Online, 4/25/05)
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA): "[T]wice Used Abramoff's Skybox For Fundraisers - Once In 2002 And Again In 2003 - Without Reimbursing. He Also Collected $17,000 From Smith And Other Abramoff-Related Sources In 2003. The Sac & Fox Gave $4,000 More To Harkin In 2004, About Six Months After The Federal Government Allowed The Tribe's Casino To Reopen." (Sharon Theimer, "Lobbyist Helped Sen. Write Tribal Pleas," The Associated Press, 12/3/05)
Reps. James Clyburn (D-SC) And Bennie Thompson (D-MS): "The Records State [Jack Abramoff's Firm] Preston Gates Paid Hotel And Airfare For [Rep. Bennie] Thompson [D-MS] And [Rep. James] Clyburn [D-SC] For Travel To The Island In January 1997. The Two Lawmakers Filed Reports To Congress Saying A Private, Nonprofit Group, Not Abramoff's Firm, Paid The Travel." (Larry Margasak and Sharon Theimer, "AP: Lobbyist Paid For Lawmakers Travel," The Associated Press, 5/3/05)
Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR): "Two Members Of Abramoff's Lobbying Team -- Ron Platt And Eddie Ayoob [Former Reid Staffer] -- Presented The $2,000 [Check From The Mississippi Choctaw's] To Lincoln At A June 2004 Fundraising Luncheon In Washington ..." (Paul Barton, "Convicted Lobbyist Donated To Campaigns Of 2 Arkansans," Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 1/5/06)
Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI): "Stabenow Got $2,000 From The Saginaw [Tribe In Michigan] In March 2002, Around The Time [Sen. Conrad] Burns' Sent His First Letter Requested By The Michigan Lawmakers. She Later Thanked Burns In A Senate Speech For His Help. She Received $2,000 More From The Saginaw About Six Months After Her 2003 Letter." (Sharon Theimer, "Lawmakers Helped Abramoff Tribes Get Federal Money, Collected Donations," The Associated Press, 11/25/05)
Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI): "[R]an Second [In Abramoff Money], With $128,000 [Between 1999-2004]. From 1999 To 2001, Kennedy Chaired The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Which Solicited Campaign Donations For House Candidates." (Jeffrey H. Birnbaum and Derek Willis, "Democrats Also Got Tribal Donations," The Washington Post, 6/3/05)
You’re believing your own talking points.
However, let’s get back to how you understand the incident at Chappaquiddick, and how the behavior of Senator Kennedy compares with that of the Vice President over the weekend.
And as for mysterious deaths under Clinton, of course they will look like accidents and there is no proof Clinton actually did the killing ( But had others do it for him) but you read and figure out for yourself Anon!
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This is pretty creepy . . .
All, the following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to and/or during President Clinton’s tenure as Governor of Arkansas and as President of the United States.
Read The List and judge for yourself.
JAMES MCDOUGAL. Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. McDougal was a key witness in Kenneth Starr’s investigation.
MARY MAHONEY- A former White House intern was murdered July 6, 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened during the pre-trial publicity surrounding the Paula Jones lawsuit. days after Newsweek’s Mike Isakoff dropped hints that a former White House staffer was about to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
VINCENT FOSTER- Former White House counselor, and former colleague of Hillarv Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose law firm. Foster was found dead July 20, 1993 of a gunshot to the head ruled a suicide.
RON BROWN-Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported to the Bob Grant Radio Show a "hole" in top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
C. VICTOR RAISER II -Former National finance Go-Chairman, Clinton for President Campaign and son MONTGOMERY RAISER died in a private plane crash in Alaska, July30th,1992. Raiser was described as a "major player" in the Clinton organization by Dee Dee Meyers.
PAUL TULLEY. Democrat National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, Arkansas September 24, 1992, Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
ED WILLEY-Clinton fund raiser-found dead November 30, 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide, Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed that Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
JERRY PARKS-Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house
JAMES BUNCH-Died from a gunshot suicide. Reported to have a "black book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
JAMES WILSON-Was found dead May 18, 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. Was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
KATHY FERGUSON- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May,1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot wound to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Corbin Jones lawsuit. She was reported a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones case.
BILL SHELTON. Arkansas state Trooper and Fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.
GANDY BAUGH -Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January , 1991. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
FLORENCE MARTIN-Accountant subcontractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Dead of three gunshot wounds.
SUZANNE COLEMAN. Reportedly has an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General, Died of a gunshot wound to hack of head, ruled a suicide, was pregnant at the time her death.
PAULA GROBER - Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
DANNY CASOLARO. Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.
PAUL WILCHER-Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC Apartment. Had delivered report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
JON PARNELL WALKER-Whitewater Investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.
BARBARA WISE-Commerce Department Staffer-worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
CHARLES MEISSNER-Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
DR. STANLEY HEARD. Chair National Chiropractic Heath Care Advisory committee died with his attorney .
STEVE DICKSON in a small plane crash. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
BARRY SEAL. drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, Death was no accident.
JOHNNY LAWHON Jr.- Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.
STANLEY MUGGINS-Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee.
His report was never released.
HERSHELL FRIDAY-Attorney & Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
KEVIN IVES & DON HENRY-Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas Airport Drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the two had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many people linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
KEITH CONEY. Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck in July, 1988:
KEITH McMASKLE. Died, stabbed 113 times, November 1988.
GREGORY COLLINS-Died from a gunshot wound, January 1989. JEFF RHODES-He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
JAMES MILAN. Found decapitated-Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.
JORDAN KETTLESON-Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
RICHARD WINTERS . Winters was a suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths.
Was killed in set-up robbery in July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING FORMER CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
MAJOR WILLIAM S. BARKLEY JR.
CAPTAIN SCOTT J.REYNOLDS
SGT. BRIAN HANEY
SGT. TIM SABEL
MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM ROBERTSON
COL. WILLIAM DENSBERGER
COL. ROBERT KELLY
SPEC. GARY RHODES
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You want facts Anon, here ya go!
Oh Dont even get me started on Chapaquiddick lol
Great research by everyone here on all the liberal stuff. Congratulations on your dedication.
But none of it changes the fact that Bush is a minority president.
At 39% approval, you guys and your research are in the minority.
A majority of Americans thinks Bush sucks.
During his impeachment, Clinton had a 60% approval rating.
Bush: 39% Presidency.
Sorry.
"Nothing is more dangerous than to live in the temperamental atmosphere of a Gallup Poll, always taking one's temperature."-Winston Churchill
Anon...poll numbers go up, and they go down. Who cares? President Clinton couldn't make a decision without polling it. Churchill and Roosevelt understood that you don't lead a nation based upon the latest gallup polls. They do matter, to an extent; but one of the great things about this president is that he isn't seeking a popularity contest; he isn't seeking your approval. He does what needs doing because it is the right thing to do, even when it might not be the popular thing, at the moment.
How many conflicting poll numbers have you seen? Did you believe in the Zogby exit polling that indicated Kerry was about to win the 2004 election? Your poll number means nothing to me. The more President Bush pisses off misguided folk like you, the more I am confident that he must be doing something right.
The only thing that will matter in the end, is how history remembers this President, years after. In the meantime, you can wave your 39% poll number around, all you want, because that is all you have. You sad, sad, person.
Still can't get over the election results of 2000 and 2004, eh? Bummer, anonymous.
I notice that we still don't know how you understand the incident at Chappaquiddick and how that relates to the hunting accident last weekend.
As it is said, "The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on."
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