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December 01, 2008

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Last chance for Constitution?

Most Americans don't realize it yet, but this Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court will review whether Barack Obama is indeed constitutionally eligible to become the next president.

The justices will hold a conference on the question and consider the case for formal review.

The case is brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the New Jersey secretary of state, and questions whether Obama is a "natural-born citizen" as required by Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.

If four of the nine justices vote to hear the case in full, oral argument may be scheduled.

It would seem a simple matter to resolve.

Barack Obama could have put this issue to rest long ago by producing a complete birth certificate from Hawaii. Instead, he has chosen to stonewall the matter, citing a website post of what can only be characterized as a partial representation of a birth certificate – one that has been criticized as a forgery.

Whether the birth certificate posted on various websites is genuine or not is almost beside the point as to his eligibility. Since Hawaii was known to register foreign births in the 1960s, the portion of the certificate released by the Obama campaign proves nothing, since it does not reveal such details as the hospital in which he was allegedly born.

Meanwhile, some of Obama's own Kenyan relatives claim to have been present at his birth in Mombasa.

This controversy, which some have dismissed as frivolous, is as serious as the literal meaning of the Constitution itself.

As I have stated before, I have little doubt a thorough investigation will prove Obama is qualified to serve the office of the presidency as a "natural-born citizen." I don't believe his campaign would ever have been successful with the specter of legal ineligibility hanging over his head.

Nevertheless, I think it is imperative to be faithful to the Constitution and to offer the American people full disclosure on such a fundamentally important matter.

Clearly, Obama doesn't think so.

But what about our U.S. Supreme Court?

Do the justices have the courage to face up to this question?

I believe they will be much more likely to do so – to take this matter seriously – if they see real demonstrations of public interest. I know of no better way for you to show that interest than to sign WND's petition.

This petition was launched just over a week ago and now boasts more than 120,000 names.

All those signing it are receiving updates on controversy. The names will be delivered to the U.S. Supreme Court in time for its review Friday. This week will represent your last chance to impact that review.

The day this petition campaign was launched, a judge in Hawaii dismissed one challenge to produce the birth certificate stating he did not believe there was sufficient public interest demonstrated. Let's be sure the same is not the case with the Supreme Court review.

I hope you will join me in this fight for truth, justice and the American way by signing the petition. Help me spread the word. Let's turn up the heat. Send this column and the petition far and wide. Share it with your neighbors. Honor the Constitution. Save this country's most vital institutions and its honor. Seek the truth. Demand accountability.

Time is running out.

The Electoral College is due to convene Dec. 15 – in less than a month.

Barack Obama is to be sworn in as the next president Jan. 20 – less than two months from now.

Do you believe the American people have a right to know for certain their next president is constitutionally eligible for the job?

Without a chance to inspect that birth certificate for themselves, do you think we can ever be certain?

If the Constitution is not taken seriously as concerns the eligibility of the president, is it likely to be taken seriously in other matters?

If you don't take responsibility and initiative on this issue, I am convinced no one else will.

Take your stand for accountability, truth, the rule of law and the Constitution.

Sign the petition now.

Complete Story And Link's Here

Does this look like an authentic Birth Certificate To You? It doesnt say how much he weighed, how long he was, the Dr. Who delivered him! This is NOT an authentic Birth Certificate! SIGN THE PETITION!!!


To: Electoral College, Congress of the United States, Federal Elections Commission, U.S. Supreme Court, President of the United States, other controlling legal authorities
Whereas, by requirement of the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, no one can be sworn into office as president of the United States without being a natural born citizen;

Whereas, there is sufficient controversy within the citizenry of the United States as to whether presidential election winner Barack Obama was actually born in Hawaii as he claims;

Whereas, Barack Obama has refused repeated calls to release publicly his entire Hawaiian birth certificate, which would include the actual hospital that performed the delivery;

Whereas, lawsuits filed in several states seeking only proof of the basic minimal standard of eligibility have been rebuffed;

Whereas, Hawaii at the time of Obama's birth allowed births that took place in foreign countries to be registered in Hawaii;

Whereas, concerns that our government is not taking this constitutional question seriously will result in diminished confidence in our system of free and fair elections;


We, the undersigned, assert our rights as citizens of the United States in demanding that the constitutional eligibility requirement be taken seriously and that any and all controlling legal authorities in this matter examine the complete birth certificate of Barack Obama, including the actual city and hospital of birth, and make that document available to the American people for inspection.

Article 2 Section 1 Unites States Constitution

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Blogger Ted said...

"Dirty Pool" at the Supreme Court apparently on behalf of Obama currently usurping YOUR Constitution: Leo Donofrio's companion case, brought by Cort Wrotnowski, with fuller/better briefing showing Obama is not an Article II "natural born citizen" reportedly has been sidetracked to the anthrax lab to deprive the full Court from seeing those filings in connection with Donofrio's case this Friday, Dec 5, 2008. DO SOMETHING AMERICA!!!

December 01, 2008 5:58 PM  
Blogger Obob said...

what would happen? we know he has used anyone possible to get elected. Obama is nothing more than a typical Chicago Machine product. So if there are lies well hidden, we will never find out until after the fact.

December 01, 2008 6:32 PM  
Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

fabulous work Marie..but dont hold yer breath girl!

December 01, 2008 8:12 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I dont know Ted, there are lawsuits going on all over the Country, Alan Keys is suing all 55 of the California electors who vote on Dec 3, if they dont have the vault copy of his Birth Certificate, then there is another in New Jersey, and I forget where else but hopfully this will be heard by the Supremes!

If they go ahead and elect this man without seeing his true Birth Certificate it will be the biggest coverup of all time!

Thank You :-)

I know I shouldnt hold my breath but this is our last chance!

December 02, 2008 11:07 AM  
Blogger J_G said...

Marie, I don't think the robes have the gonads to let this case be heard. The legal manuvering by the lawyers has to be good enough to get the the Supremes to hear the case. Remember Obama has the evil George Soros' bottomless money barrel behind him in order to communize the country. Signed the petition!

December 03, 2008 1:42 AM  
Blogger J_G said...


Thank you for signing the petition to request that Barack Hussein Obama's birth certificate be released to the American people. So far, 144,305 of your fellow citizens have joined you in calling for the release of this critical information.

December 03, 2008 1:45 AM  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

The Berg petition was reviewd by Justice Souter on Monday and I cannot find anything on the web concerning waht the result of that was.

If there is nothing to hide then why does this guy keep presenting counter suits instead of just showing the birth certificate ?

I am anxious as to what Justice Thomas will find in his review on Friday. If he finds in favor of the peititoner then I am sure, Roberts, Alito and Scalia will join Thomas thus bringing it before the entire court and a public hearing at the SCOTUS level.

Oh BTW Marie the Electors don't vote until December 15 ! That is why the fifth was set as the date for Thomas leaving only ten days to resolve it before the electors vote creating a Constitutional crisis.

December 03, 2008 8:37 AM  
Blogger Concerned Citizen said...


I am asking everyone I can for a personal favor. Would you please read the first article on my site and repost it here? I would never ask such a thing for myself, but this is not for my benefit at all.

Thank you.

December 03, 2008 8:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How did it get this far? I wonder how long until a report from the conference is issued.

December 03, 2008 8:54 AM  
Blogger Indigo Red said...

I signed the petition awhile ago even though I knew it would not affect the Supremes decision. The Justices are appointed for life so they don't have the Sword of Damocles in the guise of voters hanging over their heads. The Robed Ones are not supposed to be swayed by fickle public opinion. They are supposed to judge the case not just on its merits but also according to the meaning of the Constitution and the intent of the Founders. I would be surprised if the bench actually sees the petition.

December 03, 2008 8:25 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Holy Desperation! You guys are still holding on to this?

Wow...10 comments and they managed to hit the best of the Fox News talking points:

1. Chicago political machine
2. Communism
3. George Soros

Marie, aren't you due to cut and paste something else on Ayers or Wright?

You all make Sean Hannity so proud.

Here's a hint: when Fox News gives up on a story against the ENEMY (fellow Americans who disagree with Bush), it's probably over.

December 04, 2008 5:31 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Found this interesting quote from Hermann Goering, Nazi military leader and supposed successor to Hitler:

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

Hmmmm...where have I seen these tactics employed in the last 8 years...???

December 04, 2008 9:39 AM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


There are 16 cases across the Country questioning Obama's eligability to even run for President which were filed before the election, if the SCOTUS does NOT here this case, the moment Obama is sworn in as President he will be committing FRAUD!

And later if the SCOTUS is compelled to hear this case every single thing that Obama has done, signed, got rid of, screwed up, all his appointments, everything will be null and void.

If the SCOTUS hears this case NOW they will be avoiding a Constitutional MESS!

If not his Citizenship will ALWAY'S be in question! I think the justices have alot on thier mind tonight!

P.S., Thank You For signing the Petition :-)

I linked everything I have so far and on tomorrow's post, there will be more. This is truly this Nation's worst hour!


I will just as soon as this matter is settled over Obama's Damn Birth Certificate!

Tomorrow is the day, If the SCOTUS does NOT hear this case and is forced to listen to this later all hell will break loose, then again, all hell is going to break loose anyway, but why not save the time and the trouble now!

All Obama ever had to do was produce his real Birth Certificate and this would all be over, but he chose to make this the mess it will become!

All we can do is hope for the best because if this matter isnt settled NOW, it WILL be settled later after Obama has already, been sworn in and conducted business and all of his business will be null and void!

As usual you are an idiot!

We are not going to let go of this until we see a vault copy of his Birth Certificate, it's not an invasion of his right to privacy!

That does NOT apply when you are going to be the commander of the Armed Forces and working FOR the people YOU and I!

Every single President /and/or/ Candidate, has produced thier records for vetting, consdieration, and to question. Not BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!

I want to know and so far at least 457,000 of the American people want to know is he fit to serve? Was he or is he a Natural Born Citizen of the United States Of America?

We HAVE THE RIGHT to know!

December 04, 2008 6:15 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Funny how we have never seen any other president's original birth certificate. But somehow the case with Obama is different. 43 white presidents = no original birth certificate check, 1 black president = guilty until proven otherwise

LOL...goes to show you how the Nazis were way ahead of their time. They designed the blueprint for how to get citizens to turn on themselves. We followed it perfectly.

Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.

Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."

Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

There are only about 10,000 different stories that are published showing that the rumor that he is not a citizen is completely false.

But then again, Fox News thought the fist bump he and Michelle did in Minnesota was a "terrorist sign" I guess anything goes.

(jump lemmings, jump!)

Joseph Goebbels:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Thank God McSame was not elected...we were THAT close to fascism.

December 04, 2008 6:32 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

I'm certain that Obama would have gone through 2 years of campaigning, traversing emotional, spiritual and physical hell, put his family in the spotlight, countless flights and trips, sleepless nights, bad meals or no meals...speech after speech...all to give it back by knowingly have falsified a birth certificate.

Yes, I'm quite sure this is the case.

Just when you guys hit rock bottom, you keep digging.

December 04, 2008 6:39 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

What ever happened to "Drill Now, Drill Here, Pay Less"???????

We didn't drill anywhere, anytime and gas down the street is at $1.63 a gallon.

Well, on to the next divisive slogan.

December 04, 2008 8:10 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Please dont copy and paste aticles from HuffyPoo over here!

Every single President has provided proof of birth and actual copy ya know with the Dr that delivered them, how much they weighed, how many i8nches they were, etc..

If Obama has nothing to hide then SHOW THE FRIGGEN DOCUMENT!

Or his Citizenship will ALWAY'S be in question!

December 05, 2008 8:05 AM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

LOL...Huffypo? Huh? What does Huffypo have to do with anything?

And Marie, you're whole blog is based on cut and paste! LOL...too funny.

Why is there not a copy of Bush's birth certificate anywhere? Or Clinton's? Or Reagan's? I don't remember seeing the original of those or ever reading anything that required them to prove it.

Or is this one of those "you're guilty so prove you're innocent" tricks by the NeoConned?

What is so funny is that the whole citizenship is not based on a birth certificate but rather that Obama's father was born in Kenya. The Supreme Court, nor the Constitution for that matter, has never defined what "natural-born" means...does it mean, born in the U.S. or does it mean born on U.S. soil AND having parents that were both born on U.S. soil? If it is the latter, he should have never even been able to run for president and his father being born in Kenya is no secret.

But let's be honest. At this point it's identical to the run up to the Iraq war: even if Obama produces anything that resembles his original birth certificate, no one is going to believe it and everyone will say it is falsified.

It's another no-win situation for Obama and for our country.

December 05, 2008 1:10 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

*you're = your

December 05, 2008 1:12 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Jesus are you that out of touch?

Have you ever heard of the National Archives?

You remember them dont you? Where Sandy Burglar, Clinton's Boy went through and stuffed archived document's down his pant's, his underwear, his sock's, and later hid them under a trailor and later set them on fire?

Promised he would come in and take a lie detector test and still has not done so till this day?

Got a slap on the wrist, a fine and community service?

You will find Presidential document's in the Presidential archives dear!

December 05, 2008 3:16 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Not interested in underwear or socks...where are the birth certificates of the other presidents and why was there not a call to see their original copies prior to being sworn in?

Why do you keep changing the subject?

December 05, 2008 4:14 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


How many times do I have to say it?

All the document's you ever wanted to know are in the National Archives, The Presidential Archives, and the Presidential Library's of those President's that have them!

All the rest will be found in the National Archives!

I am NOT going to do your homework for you!

I am busy reading up on President James Buchanan the 15th President whose eligability to become President was the first one ever to be questioned.

Remember Google is your friend :-)

December 05, 2008 4:21 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


You know if you would quit being a smartass, then I might quit being a smartass back and we could have an actual itelligent conversation about this whole thing!

I find This whole thing fascinating! Even though I didn't want Barack Obama as my President that doesn't mean I want our Country to fail!

It also doesn't mean that I want Obama to fail as President if he is legally qualified to be!

Actually if this whole episode get's heard by SCOTUS it eliminates John McCain as well, because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone!

I think the Constitution Of The United States Of America is thee most fascinating Document ever written and I am getting quite a History lesson from this whole thing :-)

If you are interested here is an interesting site to visit:
US President'

This is getting really fascinating as far as I am concerned!

December 05, 2008 4:45 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona in 1909, and ran for the Presidency as a Republican Party candidate in 1964. Goldwater's natural born citizenship status was questioned because Arizona was a territory of the United States, and did not become a state until 1912.

John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and was the Republican nominee in 2008, was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. In March 2008 McCain was held eligible for Presidency in an opinion paper by former Solicitor General Ted Olson and Harvard Law Professor Laurence H. Tribe. In April 2008 the US Senate approved a non-binding resolution recognizing McCain's status as a natural born citizen. In September 2008 a Federal District judge said obiter that it was "highly probable" that McCain was a natural born citizen of the United States owing to the citizenship legislation existing at the time. These views have been criticized by Gabriel J. Chin, Professor of Law at the University of Arizona, who claims that McCain was at birth a citizen of Panama and was only retroactively declared a born citizen under 8 U.S.C. § 1403.

The Supreme Court cannot simply make laws. The Constitution states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

The issue is defining "natural born citizen". Since Obama has never taken any required courses on gaining U.S. citizenship it is safe to say he has been a U.S. citizen from birth. He had to have been in order to participate in everything he's accomplished to this point. Any changes to the U.S. Constitution, as I'm sure all well-informed Republican lemmings know, are done through the legislatures of both the States and the Congress, not through the Supreme Court.

But, since the 4th, 6th and 8th amendments have all been violated by the Bush Regime, who knows...maybe the Supreme Court will go for the fences on this one. Bush has less than 50 days in office so he just might pull this off as his final middle finger to the country..

December 05, 2008 4:51 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

The problem is, Marie, that the country has become so divisive, more so than it ever has thanks to the hard work by Rove & Company's brilliant propaganda campaign, that you guys cannot even see the absolute absurdity in this issue.

It's still the ole' "you're either with us or you're against us" mentality. Guilty until proven innocent...we took the one principle upon which our country was founded and completely destroyed it. Disgraceful.

Can you for a second take yourself out of your opinion and think about how incredibly absurd it would be for Barack Obama to have gone through this entire process KNOWING that he does not meet the bare minimum qualifications for being president? Does that not seem a totally insane thought to you?

December 05, 2008 4:57 PM  
Blogger The Federalist said...

If this were to be overturned, by some resurrected Nazi spirit, may God have mercy on Washington, D.C.
The people will not.

December 05, 2008 4:59 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Ok overlooking some of what you handed me I am not trying to be a smartass right now!

I got into a hell of a discussion with my own son earlier today (My youngest) That's the one in the Army! And is an Obama supporter! See I have a diverse family.

I told him when this whole thing (If it ever really does) get concluded, would disqualify John McCain even for the Presidency since he was born in the Panama Canal zone, well my son corrected me and said NO, if he was born on an American Military Base, he would be considered an American Citizen because ALL American Military bases are on American soil!

I was a bit confused at that point, but he said that's the way it is and that's the way it goes. Because we either own the Land that the American Military Base is located, or we lease the land but more than likely we own it.

He was trying to give his children as an example, he said since he married his wife in Germany (Not On Base Which Is Not On American Soil) even he being a "Natural Born American" does NOT make his wife an American Citizen until she goes through the entire American process of becoming an American citizen which in all honesty she is doing.

Ok, he say's, but if his children were born at say Ramstein Air Base where he was stationed they WOULD be considered American Citizen's since He is Natural and his children were born on American soil, yet located in Germany!

This whole thing get's really fascinating and who better to ask than an American Vet/ Obama Supporter? LOL!

But his children really arent in question, that was just a hypothetical, his chilren were born in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and they therefore are Natural.

And since no American is banned and/or/ prohibited from visiting, living, or co-habitating in Germany that takes alot out of the equasion.

But this is where I am going with this, is I want ANY of our President's to be "Natural Born Americans" because that's in Article 2 section 1 of the US Constitution.

He and I will discuss more of this tomorrow since he is at work now.

But I would like to have an intelligent conversation about all this with you, and possibly learn some things I didnt know before!

Like I said I find this fscinating and one HELL of a History lesson! LOL

I Just want the best for our Country no matter who is behind the wheel quite honestly!

December 05, 2008 5:32 PM  
Blogger Indigo Red said...

The question of Obama's natural born status does not rest only on the plcae of his birth, but also on the age of his mother and the duration of her residency in the US prior to the birth.

Teen Mother Obama was under 18 yrs old and had not resided 6 consecutive months in the US before giving birth. Under these restrictions, it does not matter where Barry was born because his mother didn't meet the rerquiements. Barry would still not be a natural born citizen.

December 06, 2008 5:53 PM  

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