Dean Says "Israel" Wouldnt Have Happened If Dems Were In Power
Washington Times Is Reporting:
When Bill Clinton dealt with Yasser Arafat not as the terrorist he was but as a legitimate leader he was not, the second intifada against Israel was born. Indeed, the Clinton approach to Middle East affairs is not one Democrats can be proud of. This approach nearly always strengthened the hand of the Islamists and the various Arab dictators, usually at the expense of American interests.
And yet it's a legacy top Democrats spent the weekend invoking, blaming the current conflict on the Bush administration. "If you think what's going on in the Middle East today would be going on if the Democrats were in control, it wouldn't, because we would have worked day after day after day to make sure we didn't get where we are today," said Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "We would have had the moral authority that Bill Clinton had when he brought together the Northern Irish and the IRA, when he brought together the Israelis and the Palestinians."
This is revisionism of the first order. The fact is that Israel and the United States have been paying the price of the Clinton administration's foolishness in trusting Yasser Arafat since. Channeling Mr. Dean, Sen. Christopher Dodd struck the same tone with a Sunday appearance on Fox News. "This administration, unfortunately, has seen the word diplomacy and negotiation as somehow a favor to your enemies," he said. This is nonsense, as Mr. Dodd, prodded by his host Chris Wallace, conceded when he ruled out negotiations with Iran.
Offering even more nonsense and less substance was Rep. Jane Harman, ranking member of the Select Intelligence Committee, who scolded the administration for not negotiating with Iran and blaming the American troubles with Syria on "the way we have been conducting ourselves in Iraq." Mrs. Harman, who probably knows better, pretends to have forgotten that Iranian, Syrian and Palestinian hostility toward Israel predated the invasion of Iraq by several decades and will no doubt long outlast the present difficulty.
But offering coherent solutions to the present crisis was not really the point. Some Democrats regard what's happening between Israel and Hezbollah as an opportunity to scrub up the party's bona fides on foreign policy. This means trying to invoke a mythical Clinton legacy and blaming everything bad on President Bush.
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Yeah Right Howie! Like the Dems could have stopped Hezblahhhh from crossing Israel's border, taking 2 Soldiers, and lobbing rockets at Israel! Or Hamas taking a Soldier from Israel. Get real Howie. NO ONE not even the United States can stop Israel from defending themselves against a terrorist group. Nor should they. Howie dont attempt to grow a brain any time soon.
posted by Marie's Two Cents | 9:36 AM
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Dean Says "Israel" Wouldnt Have Happened If Dems Were In Power?
Probably true. Of course Hitler could say the same thing about the Nazis.
I know Uncle P, I had to look twice at that before I posted it too.
Howard Dean is just aboslutely nuts! Does he honestly believe in his own drivel, or is he just playing politics? Even so, it's bad politics.
To think that this jackass was a presidential candidate for the Democratic Party.
I honestly cannot see this man as remotely presidential material.
Word,
I agree.
The next thing I would like to see Dean as a cantidate for is a good old fashioned Country Ass Whoopin!
the wordsmith from nantucket said:
To think that this jackass was a presidential candidate for the Democratic Party.
I honestly cannot see this man as remotely presidential material
To think that a jackass was appointed by the Supreme Court to lead this country!
I honestly cannot see Bush as remotely intelligent enough to know better than to give a husbandly massage to the Chancellor of Germany.
Way to go Dubya! The whole world saw your stupid behavior. At least Clinton had the door closed.
Y'know, Mrs. Green, if you live by the Supreme Court (Roe v. Wade, Brown v. Board of Education, Lawrence v. Texas), you'll die by the Supreme Court.
George Bush was elected in 2000, and then again in 2004. Get over it.
To think that a jackass was appointed by the Supreme Court to lead this country!
I honestly cannot see Bush as remotely intelligent enough to know better than to give a husbandly massage to the Chancellor of Germany.
Way to go Dubya! The whole world saw your stupid behavior. At least Clinton had the door closed.
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Why Mrs Green,
Are you by any means suggesting that Gore didnt have the right to hold up the Country for 30 some odd days while recount after recount after recount proved HE DIDNT WIN and someone namely the Supreme Court had NO RIGHT to put a halt to the Ballot counting because no matter which way you counted them Gore was not the winner and that couldnt go on forever?
And a "Husbandly" massage?
You would have thought Bush drug along a little Blue dress and a Cigar or something!
I do however wish Clinton would have left the door "Open", they could have made a fortune with the Bill/Monica Sex tapes on Ebay!
Uncle P,
I dont know how I do it but I manage to lure all the ones that cant get over the FIRST election let alone the 2004 election that sent the rest over the edge.
You are correct they really do need to get over it.
Just thought I would add my "Two Cents", yall just go on about your debate and stuff. ;-)
We need to get over it?
Hah!
Bush's numbers have been in the toilet since the 2004 election.
If they don't go over 50% within the next few months, he will go down in history as having the worst approval ratings in his second term of any post WWII president.
Of course, you and your Bush lovers won't face this reality. You don't believe polls when they reflect the nation's distaste for Bush and his administration.
Did you think the polls were insignificant when, after 9/11, he had a 90% approval? Of course not. You liked those numbers.
A majority of people want the Democrats to take over Congress. This nation has had it with the disasterous policies of this incompetent administration.
Iraq, New Orleans, Social Security sham, Medicare rip-off, deficits, debt, and enriching the very richest.
I'm glad you, Marie, are so filthy rich that you can cheer on the elites in this administration who think the middle class and the poor are not worth their attention.
How you can support a group of people who care not a fig about you is a constant source of wonder to me.
Keep you heads in the sand and enjoy your place with the 30 percenters.
You. Are. A. Minority.
It's a reality you refuse to deal with.
Just like the disaster that Bush is and has been.
Take my advice, Mrs. Green. Switch to decaf.
Really.
uncle pavian,
take my advice. switch to reality.
It's so liberating. Heh.
Mrs Green,
Yes you do really need to get over it.
Here we go with poll numbers again.
I didnt care about poll numbers after 9-11 and I dont care about them now.
If poll numbers were accurate your guy would be President.
There was once another man who defied everybody, got low poll numbers, had everybody pissed at him, all the Liberals did at the time was bitch and complain, alot like today, turns out as "Arrogant" as he was portrayed to be he still got alot done, put those in the Congress that bitched at him in thier place, made everyone HAPPY to be an American again, and ended the cold war. That man was President Ronald Reagan!
Everyone called him "Incompetant" also, said he was to "Old" for the job. But those hostages were sure in the air as President Reagan was being sworn in for his first term, because Iran KNEW Reagan wasnt playing!
Something Jimmy Carter just couldnt seem to get across to the American people.
That's another one, you better check Ol Jimmy (Peanut Farmer) Carter's "Poll" numbers when he left office! Since you are into polls.
It's just a simple fact, Republicans are stronger on Defense and National Security than Liberals.
Roosevelt was probably the LAST Democrat to be strong on Defense. But the Roosevelt days are long gone in your party.
By the way I am not filthy rich or I sure wouldnt be on this thing with you! I would be sipping Pina Coladas in the Bahamas!
I work and come home work and come home, it's a ritual, you know the kind of ritual Howard Dean said we (Republicans) Have never done a day's worth in our life?
But I sure dont intend to share my paycheck with those that wont get up off thier asses and even try to get a job, those who sit on welfare as if it isnt expected to be a short term situation and have turned it into a life style.
And those people that dont give a "Fig" about me as you put them, have managed to keep me safe for the last 5 years, have grown our economy and kept it steady through terrorist attacks on our Country, a war, and couple of hurricanes. Have had just about the lowest unemployment numbers in History, more people own thier own homes than ever before in History, and have made it possible for children to have the right to go to school wherever they want to. (As long as it isnt a terrorist training camp or something) And still managed to put a little extra money in my pocket with those (I know how you hate to hear this but "Tax Cuts")!
It is YOU Liberals that have divided this Country and your own party, your entire party is bought and paid for by George Soros and his bunch.
And I guess he accomplished what he set out to do because most of you want to go so far to the left your dangling over a cliff, and the others are truly looking more moderate like Lieberman and Hillary. (However Hillary is just pretending to be moderate)
As the great Democrat Senator from Georgia Zell Miller said: "I havent left my party, My party left me". You all sold out to George Soros. And left all the moderates behind. But hey, it's your loss.
No my dear it is YOU who needs to pull your head out of your ass!
Until proven otherwise
We.Are.Still.The.Majority.
The only poll that counts is in November.
That's the reality you just cant seem to get through YOUR head!
Bush a disater, Hardly!
God help us all if Gore was in office, that would have truly been a disater! And most of us would be dead, because Gore would have tried to talk all nicey nicey with people that dont give a rats ass who is in power in the United States they just want us dead.
But you of course chose to sit and bitch about Bush, and still have no plan.
Wake me when you come up with one.
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Yall carry on now!
Bush a disater, Hardly!
God help us all if Gore was in office, that would have truly been a disater!
Poor deluded gooper. You forget that it was on THE RUPUBLICAN PRESIDENT BUSH'S WATCH WHEN WE WERE ATTACKED BY AL QAEDA AND 3,000 AMERICANS WERE SLAUGHTERED. BUSH WAS PRESIDENT WHEN THAT HAPPENED, NOT AL GORE.
Excuse me for shouting, but you guys conviently forget that. See the attack happened while Bush was president. Remember? You gonna blame Clinton for it now? Gore?
Won't work, goopers. Bush was president. Bush.
But you of course chose to sit and bitch about Bush, and still have no plan.
Excuse me? Bush is the preznit, Congress is owned by the Republican party, the Supremes Court has been taken by the conservatives and you guys have Faux News for your mouth piece. And you want the Democrats to have a plan? How exactly would the Democrats implement one with Bush and his Republican Congress in power? Hmmm? Do you think with your brain or your spleen?
Bush won the presidency twice? Yeah. Right. Well so did Bill Clinton, and your point is?
Wake me when you come up with one.
Honey, you and your thirty percenters have been asleep since Bush grabbed power. It's the rest of America that has woken up.
Have fun as a pathetic minority, cheering on a loser president who is the laughing stock of the rest of the world.
PS.
No less than 15 members of Saint Ronnie's administration were indicted for felonies and misdemeanors.
Now don't come back and tell me how many scandals Clinton's administration was involved in.
You guys brag about bringing integrity and honesty to the White House. Well Saint Ronnie has a bad record in that regard, and I don't have room to list all the criminals associated with Bush's administration.
And if you bring up Clinton's administration, all you're saying is that the Republicans are scumbags just like the Democrats.
Heh.
I know the difference between "your" and "you're."
I did not post that bit of nasty. Some unimaginative and under-educated name stealer did this to make me look rude.
The dead give-away is the illiterate use of "your."
Nice try, name stealer. Why don't you speak for yourself instead of being a coward and using my name?
Maybe you're just too stupid to post anything more than you did.
Don't be ashamed. I understand you can take English As A Second Language at your local junior high.
I just gave you your first lesson, and now you're on your way.
Mrs. Green,
Poor deluded gooper. You forget that it was on THE RUPUBLICAN PRESIDENT BUSH'S WATCH WHEN WE WERE ATTACKED BY AL QAEDA AND 3,000 AMERICANS WERE SLAUGHTERED. BUSH WAS PRESIDENT WHEN THAT HAPPENED, NOT AL GORE.
Excuse me for shouting, but you guys conviently forget that. See the attack happened while Bush was president. Remember? You gonna blame Clinton for it now? Gore?
Won't work, goopers. Bush was president. Bush.
As a matter of fact YES I am going to blame Clinton for this damn mess.
Every single time this Country or her interest's were attacked Clinton was busy with some damned scandal and every single time he sent a few cruise missiles into an Asprin factory or something, and then sent it on to the FBI. As some form of a Police action!
THE FBI??? HOW ABOUT THE NSA???
1993 First WTC Bombing,
Kohbar Towers,
Embassy bombing's in Kenya and Tanzania,
TWA Flight 800 (Never did find out what caused that but the plane just blew up in mid air, my guess, terrorism but what do I know planes just tend to do that sometimes I guess),
Clinton sent troops to Kosovo, a Country that never attacked us yet was doing the same thing's as Saddam Hussein but it was alright for Clinton but for Bush? Hell NO!
1998 Bin Laden declared war on the United States,
2000 the USS Cole,
The Sudan tried to hand Bin Laden over to Clinton 3 TIMES!!! 3 TIMES!!! and Clinton NEVER took him!
And if that wasnt enough the biggest action Clinton EVER took was an attack on the Branch Dividian Compound in Waco, Texas!!
Oh they were a REAL threat, a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to the US!
Burned them to the ground Clinton and Reno did!
Talk about a laughing stalk.
And all that happened under CLINTON, CLINTON was Preznit then and instead of going after Bin Laden he burn's down The Branch Dividians in Waco!@#$#@!
Excuse me? Bush is the preznit, Congress is owned by the Republican party, the Supremes Court has been taken by the conservatives and you guys have Faux News for your mouth piece. And you want the Democrats to have a plan? How exactly would the Democrats implement one with Bush and his Republican Congress in power? Hmmm? Do you think with your brain or your spleen?
Bush won the presidency twice? Yeah. Right. Well so did Bill Clinton, and your point is?
Yeah a plan would be nice if you expect to win any form of an election. You know a plan, something DIFFERENT than what Bush is already doing? A message? Something besides "Bush is the bad guy, we can do better", something like that.
Just because the Congress and the Supreme Court are in Republican hands does NOT prevent you on the left from presenting some kind of plan. Something with some teeth would be nice.
And let's just leave my organ's out of this ok?
I am thinking with my head "The one attached to my shoulders".
Honey, you and your thirty percenters have been asleep since Bush grabbed power. It's the rest of America that has woken up.
Have fun as a pathetic minority, cheering on a loser president who is the laughing stock of the rest of the world.
I will repeat myself once more,
Until proven otherwise
I.Am.In.The.Majority.
It's you on the left that are asleep at the switch, you all were through the Clinton administration and you sure as hell are now. You guy's dont even think there is a Global war on terror!
You sit and Bash the ONLY President one who is doing ANYTHING about terrorism, CLINTON did NOTHING!
I bet if Bush was in office and the Sudan had Bin Laden and was willing to hand him over Bush would have took that Moron in a heartbeat.
But because Clinton didnt, we had 9-11.
Mrs. Green,
PS.
No less than 15 members of Saint Ronnie's administration were indicted for felonies and misdemeanors.
Now don't come back and tell me how many scandals Clinton's administration was involved in.
You guys brag about bringing integrity and honesty to the White House. Well Saint Ronnie has a bad record in that regard, and I don't have room to list all the criminals associated with Bush's administration.
And if you bring up Clinton's administration, all you're saying is that the Republicans are scumbags just like the Democrats.
Heh.
Oh No You Dont! You dont get to hit Ronnie and run and say I cant say anything about the scandals that plagued the Clinton administration!
Paula Jones,
Jennifer Flowers,
Whitewater,
Filegate,
Zoe Baird Fiasco,
Wag the Dog,
I'm sure I left out alot,
We would be here all day listing all the contraversies during the Clinton administration.
Nice to know you recognize the Democrats as being scumbags though.
And "Saint Ronnie" did bring integrity to the White House, I didnt see Ronnie poking Interns with Cigars while getting blow jobs!
Well, Marie, I guess it just goes to show that you can't argue with people who truly believe that Turki al-Gore is the rightful President of the United States and that Dick Cheney blew up the Pentagon.
But Mrs. Green is correct about one thing: Liberals don't need a plan. As superior carbon-based life forms, they can solve problems just by being in charge.
Happy motoring...
Uncle P,
You just made me spit out my soda!
LMAO!
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