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January 11, 2008

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Post SC GOP Debate Roundup

It was pretty much all Fred Thompson last night.

Mike Huckabee did well, so did Guiliani, Romney, and McCain.

Naturally Ron Paul was his usual screwy ass self. Hired a blimp that was so annoying to most of the people there actually trying to get an interview with one of the candidates, but he didnt care. Then his "Cult" tried to make it look as if he was the winner of the debate by text messaging thier votes continuously to make it look like he won but everyone saw through that and went with the focus group that declared Fred the winner! I'll Post Pictures and Video as I get them.

Ron Paul's Annoying Blimp

Fred Thompson's Bus

LOL! This Is Cute

Thank's to Mike's America For hosting the live chat on the post below, and Ken over atThe Liberal Lies The Conservative Truth for the pre-debate coverage. You both did great!


Crossposted from The Liberal Lies The Conservative Truth:


There were a lot of irritated media in the filing room as the Debate began when we found that the Internet connection that had been dependable all day had stopped. So this wrap up will include both debate analysis and coverage of the activities in the Spin Room after the debate.

First the debate. Throughout this campaign cycle we have never been short of debates. this one though was more detailed and had much more substance to it then the preceding GOP debates. Part, I am sure was due to the fact that rather than 10 candidates as has been the case in most of the debates there were only six. Additionally the questions that were asked were more detailed and much tougher than most in the past.

The candidates also had more time to answer and the rebuttals were handled well and for the most part actually had to do with the question at hand and not rambling campaign talking points as has been the practice before.

In rating the candidates I will start at the bottom and work my way up from there.

Ron Paul - F - More than any other debate Paul made his isolationist and blame America position well known in most of his responses. His repetition concerning the economic aspect of United States foreign policy and his continual finger pointing of blame to the US especially concerning Israel made him look the absolute fool.

Mike Huckabee - C - He did answer religious questions with an obvious educated response but his continual avoidance when confronted with the truth of his record and trying to claim that he gave hope instead of tax increases while he was Governor of Arkansas began rather redundant.

John McCain - C + - Though McCain did come across strong when speaking of the military and certain aspects of Foreign policy he repeated himself often especially when referring to his being called, "the sheriff, " in reference to appropriations bills. A claim he stated four times during the debate. For him a poor showing considering that South Carolina sunk his campaign in 2000.

Rudy Giuliani - B - - Not one of Rudy's better nights, though he did refrain from constant references about 9/11 as has been his practice in previous debates. When asked about his foreign policy experience he did provide and answer that gave his qualification on this issue and as always his answer concerning the war and terrorism were strong.

Mitt Romney - B - Romney had a good showing tonight. He refrained from continual references to his Massachusetts accomplishments as much as in the past and replaced this with plans and strategy as to what he would actually do if elected President.

Fred Thompson - A - - Though not asked as many questions as some of the candidates, his answers were well thought out and detailed especially when referring to his plan for border security and causing the illegals to leave by , "attrition." While his overall performance was a B +, the reason for the A - was because he was the only candidate who challenged Huckabee on his record which put the Huckster on the defensive much of the night as he danced around that record. Also Fred's response concerning Pakistan and the statement about sending the Iranians to meet the virgins were some of the highlights of the evening.

After the debate we made our way to the Spin Room where Hannity and Combs broadcast their show live and interviewed the candidates. That is all but Ron Paul. His absence in the Spin Room and the Hannity and Combs show was an obvious shun of the media in general and Sean Hannity personally.

The candidates did not stop for interviews with the media with two exceptions, Fred Thompson spent a moment after his appearance on Hannity and Combs in which I had opportunity to ask him about how he felt concerning his need to do well in South Carolina. He responded that he, "felt that he would be putting all his cards on the table since here in the South he was on his own home turf." He went on to say that, "the response to his bus tour was excellent and he was confident that South Carolina would come out for him on the 19th."

Mike Huckabee also spent a moment before his appearance and I asked him why he continually avoided talking directly about his Arkansas record ? He again avoided the question by stating that during his , "ten years as Governor he brought hope to the people of Arkansas, " and since he was re-elected that proved that he, "did something right."

I also talked with South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint, a Romney supporter, and asked him how important South Carolina was to the Governor in light of his second place finish in Iowa and New Hampshire. DeMint said that Romney, "needed to do well in Michigan and then win in South Carolina to remain strong in the Primary race." He went on to state that he was, "confident, " that Romeny would win in South Carolina because his message, " follows the values of South Carolinians."

A very rewarding and enjoyable day was experienced by all of us as we covered the debate activities. I want to express my special thanks to my son Chris and also to Travis Whitaker for their help throughout the day. Their chasing down many of the stories and the people so I could spend time writing was a tremendous help. Also being in three places at once made it much easier to get the activities that are usually not covered at events like this.

Also thanks to Mike's America for sponsoring the liveblogging and inviting me to participate throughout the day at each of the sites that were linked to he liveblog. Thanks to each of you for stopping by and allowing Travis, my son and myself to bring the South Carolina GOP debate to the web.

Ken Taylor

Fred Thompson Highlight's

Focus Group

Page Of Pictures Ken Took At The Debate



Blogger J_G said...

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January 11, 2008 10:36 PM  
Blogger J_G said...

I got to watch the rerun of the debate after I got home from work last night. I didn't watch the whole thing though. I thought Fred finally made a good showing for himself. He had some very good lines but his plan for taxes is vague and he hasn't fully developed his strategy.

I watched as McCain made a complete ass of himself and I was wondering when he was going to try and punch Mitt Romney in the nose.
McCain just isn't presidential material, he isn't now and he never was. His temperament is not up for the job. He also has been nothing but a capitulator when it comes to compromising our ideals to make bad laws like McCain- Feingold, McCain-Kennedy and amnesty for illegals etc...

I'll say this though, Romney has been consistent in his message and the hard work he does to get every possible vote he can get. Would he work this hard for the American people if elected? Given his track record so far, I believe so.

Rudy did well too. His tax plan sounds good but I'll wait to see more details.

Huckabee sounded like he should be running against John Edwards for the distant third place in the "I can spend more tax money than you can" side of the primaries.

I am a person with a heart though. I watched Ron Paul try and answer the detailed questions that was asked of him. I actually felt sorry for the guy, he lost his train of thought and couldn't make a clear point. I think the stress of campaigning is finally catching up with him and it shows. I don't hate Ron Paul, some of his far fethced ideas and his lunatic followers are what make him seem so unpalatble to most. I think Paul is earnest in his beliefs even though I don't agree with most of his premises. I think for his own credibility (if he has any left) he should gracefully bow out. Paul reminds me of a friend's uncle when I was growing up. You could always sense something was a little amiss but he was always very nice to us so nobody ever said anything about it.

January 11, 2008 10:39 PM  
Blogger Obob said...

mike's coverage is outstanding and gives a very grounded approach. Maybe we can ground Paul's blimp? I'm glad to see Fred getting some traction, but he needs to step it up a bit

January 12, 2008 6:06 AM  
Blogger Gayle said...

I hope Fred continues to do as well as he did in SC.

Regarding Ron Paul's hot air balloon, that was extra storage for hot air in case he should run out. :)

January 12, 2008 9:36 AM  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Great comment, Jennifer!

January 12, 2008 10:02 PM  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Thanks for the cross posting Marie and the excellent Fred post.

He is beginnign to catch on in SC. Read my Sunday Commentary and you will YEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWW with agrin on your face when you see what is happening in SC.

January 13, 2008 2:36 AM  
Blogger Daniel Ruwe said...

J_G said...
I got to watch the rerun of the debate after I got home from work last night. I didn't watch the whole thing though. I thought Fred finally made a good showing for himself. He had some very good lines but his plan for taxes is vague and he hasn't fully developed his strategy.

Fred Thompson has a very detailed tax plan. Check out his site.

January 14, 2008 7:24 AM  
Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

wow Marie what an excellent roundup ..U did all the legwork for me!..haha

January 14, 2008 9:00 PM  
Blogger Uncle Pavian said...

There were a lot of irritated media in the filing room as the Debate began when we found that the Internet connection that had been dependable all day had stopped.
That's why we refer to it as "The Intermit" around our house, Marie.

January 15, 2008 11:53 AM  
Blogger Dee said...

Fred had an awesome night, I hope he keeps it up!!

January 15, 2008 3:04 PM  
Blogger Mike's America said...

Hey Marie! So what did you think of McCain getting beat in Michigan?

It's going to make South Carolina more interesting.

January 15, 2008 6:58 PM  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


I know this is day's later that I answered this but good for Romney lastnight :-)

But I have NO spmpathy for Ron Paul especially after reading This

Paul is a racist and quite mentally disturbed.


Ground Ron Paul's Blimp haha

Yes Mike alway's has the best coverage :-) Probably because he used to work for Ronald Reagan!


Me Too!

Regarding Ron Paul's hot air balloon, that was extra storage for hot air in case he should run out. :)



You are welcome my friend :-)

I am on my way over there in a few minutes.


Ha! Your welcome

Uncle P,

You are to much :-)


I wish Fred would catch fire somehow, and really come alive. I hope it isnt to little to late.


I dont know what to think. We still have no front runner, Thompson isnt catching fire the way I was hoping he would, and I may just have to sacrifice some of my priciples for whomever becomes the front runner.

I dont know Mike, I just dont know.

January 16, 2008 10:42 AM  

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